Saturday 08/09/84

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Sat. 8 Sep. 1984



Chaloner's Whin Jn.          1056-1430








2H02 DU 10/56 09:40 Sheffield - York DD 2 1x2 Met Camm.
1Z29 DU 10/59 08:15 Stoke - York DD 3 Charter. 1x3 BRCW
1M67 47615 11/01 10:00 Scarborough - Liverpool L St UL 6+1
2T08 DU 11/03 10:21 Doncaster - York DD 5 1x3 BRCW, 1x2 Met Camm.
5G07 47376 11/05 10:51 Clifton CS - Leeds UL 10 Addl ECS t/w 1G07 1200 Leeds - New Clee Footex
4E35   ( 31284 11/08 07:54 Grange Jn - Lackenby DD 25 Running addly in SX times. Ety BBA
cpld    ( 31235





1Z76 31312 11/08 11:00 York - Carlisle UL 6 Addl
9… 47277 11/11

DD 5 3xYMO rails, grampus, brake
1E75 DU 11/13 09:40 Manchester V - York DL 5 Addl. 1x3 SCC, 1x2 Derby
1S17 HST 11/14 09:00 Kings Cross - Edinburgh DD 1-8-1 43044/090
1E10 HST 11/18 07:05 Cardiff - Newcastle DD 1-7-1 43148/138
0… 45009 11/22

UL

2E07 DU 11/23 08:58 Manchester V - York DL 2 1x2 Met Camm.
1E03 HST 11/23 06:00 Aberdeen - Kings Cross UD 1-8-1 43154/056
1E06 45137 11/27 09:05 Liverpool L St - Scarborough DL 7+1
2M16 DU 11/36 11:34 York - Manchester V UL 2 1x2 Met Camm.
1N01 HST 11/38 09:30 Kings Cross - Newcastle DD 1-7-1 43049/111
0… 47277 11/40

UD

2H13 DU 11/43 10:47 Scarborough - Sheffield UD 6 1x4 Derby, 1x2 BRCW
1G08 DU 11/48 11:30 York - Leeds UL 7 EDU t/w 1G08 1220 Leeds - New Clee Footex. 1x2 Derby, 1x2 SCC, 1x2 Met Camm.
1S20 HST 11/49 10:00 Kings Cross - Aberdeen DD 1-8-1 43060/041
6N40 47360 11/53 11:43 Leeds ORT - Port Clarence DL 13 13x100t ety oil
1S19 HST 11/56 09:50 Kings Cross - Edinburgh DD 1-8-1 (nos not recorded)
1A15 HST 11/56 10:40 Newcastle - Kings Cross UD 1-8-1 43059/103
0… 37153 11/59

DD

1M63 47519 11/59 11:00 Scarborough - Bangor UL 6+1
2E09 DU 12/20 09:58 Manchester V - York DL 3 1x3 BRCW
1E05 HST 12/25 08:30 Glasgow Q St - Kings Cross UD 1-8-1 43100/162
1E79 45106 12/26 10:05 Liverpool L St - Scarborough DL 8
2T11 DU 12/28 12:25 York - Doncaster UD 2 1x2 Met Camm.
1Z12 45128 12/28 10:50 Newcastle - Manchester V UL 11 Footex
2M18 DU 12/37 12:34 York - Manchester V UL 3 1x3 BRCW
1J11 37228 12/39 11:40 Scarborough - Sheffield UD 8
6E40   ( 37109 12/49 10:10 Corby - Lackenby DL 19 Running addly in SX times. Ety BBA
cpld    ( 37052





1S36 HST 12/50 10:35 Kings Cross - Edinburgh DD 1-7-1 (nos not recorded)
1M69 47543 12/50 11:49 Scarborough - Manchester V UL 8
1S21 HST 12/54 11:00 Kings Cross - Edinburgh DD 1-8-1 43089/051
1M73 47555 12/58 11:25 Newcastle - Liverpool L St UL 8+1
1E26 HST 13/04 10:15 Edinburgh - Kings Cross UD 1-8-1 43055/158
2E11 DU 13/10 10:58 Manchester V - York DL 2 1x2 Met Camm.
5G.. 37283 13/10

UL 3 BSO, Mk3 TF, Barrier
4… 37034 13/15

DL 10 Freightliner
1E07 HST 13/15 08:10 Aberdeen - Kings Cross UD 1-8-1 (nos not recorded)
1V89 HST 13/17 12:00 Newcastle - Cardiff UD 1-7-1 43151/172
2H05 DU 13/19 13:16 York - Sheffield UL 2 1x2 Met Camm.
1E08 45125 13/21 09:30 Llandudno - Newcastle DL 7+1
2T10 DU 13/25 12:25 Doncaster - York DD 2 1x2 Met Camm.
1E30 HST 13/26 07:00 Plymouth - Newcastle DL 1-7-1 43141/130
2M20 DU 13/34 13:31 York - Manchester V UL 2 1x2 Met Camm.
1N13 37139 13/36 09:10 Yarmouth - Newcastle DD 11
1L35 31436 13/39 12:45 Hull - York DD 4
1S24 HST 13/46 12:00 Kings Cross - Inverness DD 1-8-1 43198/105
1E09 HST 13/50 07:20 Inverness - Kings Cross UD 1-8-1 43063/068
2H04 DU 13/57 12:33 Sheffield - York DD 4 2x2 Derby
1M26 47481 14/00 13:00 Scarborough - Bangor UL 7+1
2T13 DU 14/07 14:05 York - Doncaster UD 2 1x2 Met Camm.
2E13 DU 14/10 11:58 Manchester V - York DL 2 1x2 BRCW
1E98 45147 14/20 12:05 Liverpool L St - Scarborough DL 7+1
1E11 HST 14/23 11:35 Edinburgh - Kings Cross UD 1-8-1 43069/160
6E50   ( 31201 14/30 11:17 Long Eaton - Port Clarence DL 14 Running addly in TThO times. 14x100t ety oil
cpld    ( 31155








Stuart Greer remembers...
"After a lazy start, I rolled up at B'ham to find 46052 on 1V73 (11:04 dep)
 which I took to Bristol TM.  I scratched 31259 BTM - Cardiff C & back on
 1V25 / 1O87, for 45113 BTM - BNS on 1M28 @ 17:10"

Pip Dunn says...
"Another summer Saturday - another early start, another trip to New Street for the gen, and, predictably, another
 jaunt to Sheffield...

 310066  2G49    0639    Coventry-Birmingham NS             Tile Hill       Birmingham NS 
 310089
 43172   1E04    0558    Bristol TM-Newcastle                    Birmingham NS   Sheffield
 43151

 I needed 40086 on 1E67, so i made the mandatory ned leap to Worksop to net a  newie (Still being a poor
 schoolkid, you had to keep the cost down...  so Skeg was out of the question)
 
 40086   1E67    0815    Manchester-Skegness               Sheffield       Worksop
 DMU             xxxx    0927    Lincoln-Sheffield               Worksop Sheffield

 Fill in move to Rotherham... (for a pair of 31s!) 
 DMU             xxxx    1126    Sheffield-Doncaster           Sheffield  Rotherham 
 31195   2C19    1010    Hull-Sheffield                            Rotherham Sheffield 
 31447

 Then an HST to Donny...
 43141   1E30    0700    Plymouth-Newcastle                  Sheffield       Doncaster
 43130

 ..for a massive Motherwell '37' on 1N13 (in the days when the Platform 5 book detailed those all important
 high-phosphorus brake blocks... whatever that meant!!)

 37139   1N13    0910    Yarmouth-Newcastle               Doncaster       York 
 43063   1Exx    0720    Inverness-King's Cross             York    Doncaster
 43068 

 Back at Donny and even the trip back to Sheffield with a (then) a relatively
 tame ETS Peak would now be a novelty (see April 8 at St Pancras recently!!)

 45127   1O86    1322    Hull-Brighton                           Doncaster       Sheffield

 another Rotherham fill-in move... 
 DMU             xxxx    1620    Sheffield-Doncaster          Sheffield Rotherham 
 31441   1M54    1513    Hull-Manchester                      Rotherham       Sheffield

 and one to Chesterfield.... 
 43107   xxxx    1720    Sheffield-St Pancras                  Sheffield       Chesterfield
 43087 
 47156   1E22    1004    Newquay-Newcastle               Chesterfield    Sheffield

 before heading home.... 
 43149   1V96    1720    Newcastle-Bristol TM             Sheffield       Birmingham NS 
 43139
 47501   1V19    1902    Manchester-Paddington           Birmingham NS   Coventry"


'Biggles' recorded the following move...
 "40135 Leeds - Blackpool
   40135 Blackpool - Newcastle
   47304

Mark Skidmore recalls...
"Very similar to Paul Griffin (below), except my day started the night before...

 31108 Sheffield - Manchester Picc on 2330 Sheffield Manchester 1M60
 31108 Manchester Picc - Sheffield on 0210 Manchester Cleethorpes 1E62
 37228 Sheffield - Moorthorpe on 0805 Chesterfield Scarborough 2H10
 swift walk to South Elmsall for-
 31301 South Elmsall - Skegness on 0900 Leeds Skegness 1D20
 40086 Skegness - Manchester Picc on 1324 Skegness Manchester 1M54
 31439 Manchester Picc - Sheffield on 1738 Manchester Cleethorpes

Happy daze!"


Paul Griffin says...
"37228  0805 Chesterfield - Scarborough            Chesterfield to Sheffield
 40086  0815 Man.Picc - Skegness                   Sheffield to Skegness
 40086  1324 Skegness - Man.Picc                   Skegness to Sheffield
 47433  1120 Glasgow Central - Harwich P.Q.    Sheffield to Chesterfield

 Did the 40 to Skegness because I'd never had one to Skeggie and there was nothing else I wanted out that day."


Neil Hirst reports...
"Strange day this one.  Had to go to a wedding pm. so ponced out in the morning in a suit:-

 31 319 Grantham - Peterborough   07.23 Chesterfield - Yarmouth
 31 415/31 209  Peterborough - March   08.15 Birmingham - Yarmouth
 37 139  March - Peterborough   09.10 Yarmouth - Newcastle
 31 218  Peterborough - Grantham   09.43 Yarmouth - Leeds

 Some poor saps reacted on the gen that 37 139 was on the Yarmouth portions and  went forward from March
 on the pair of Goyles. Scored the tractor and went to the wedding; job done!"


Alan Baylis writes ...
"Penultimate week for the Aber trains:

 86251   B'ham - Wolverhampton                1P16 0620 Birmingham - Lancaster

 DMU     Wolverhampton - Shrewsbury       ???? 0645 Wolverhampton - Shrewsbury

 25278/25287 Shrewsbury - Aberystwyth    2J61 0744 Shrewsbury -Aberystwyth

 25278/25287 Aberystwyth - Newtown       1A26 1010 Aberystwyth - Euston

- we ran into a Ford Escourt car at a crossing just outside Aber.  The car was a write off but the driver, covered
 in blood, survived.  Loco only slightly damaged but needed the Machynlleth fitter's attention to free the brakes 

 25269/25288 Newtown - Aberystwyth      1J20 0735 Euston - Aberystwyth

25269/25288 Aberystwyth - Wolverhampton         2J84 1400 Aberystwyth - Shrewsbury(!)

- amazing, we stop in the middle of nowhere, apparently pulled up by a Police car but within a few minutes the
 'mobile fitter' appears to attend to the engines.  We are so late the train is extended to Wolverhampton and
 then B'ham Int rather than terminating at Shrewsbury.

 86007   Wolverhampton - B'ham International      2J84 1400 Aberystwyth - Shrewsbury(!)

- as I left New Street for Coventry on what I thought was a rateable move I spotted a Class 58 on Platform 8.
 By the time I had got back it had gone and that about summed up the rest of my day.

 47497   B'ham International - Wolverhampton      1M23 1440 Poole - Liverpool

86325   B'ham - B'ham International                      1M42 1020 Inverness - Euston

87001   B'ham International - B'ham                      1G43 1840 Euston - Wolverhampton

45019   B'ham - Burton                                         1E32 1645 Paignton - Leeds

43151   Burton - B'ham                                         ???? 2120 Derby - Bristol"



SteveH says...
"Not a great success apart from having my 46 beast, and the 58
was a bonus, but theres a selection of EH Duffs & Cans for some reason,
I must've been on a WMPTE Scratch'n'Flash judging by the BNS-BI ned
moves, anyway here goes...

31422 Hinckley-Leics 1E62
45138 Leics-Loughboro 1E05
45116 Loughboro-Leics 1V67
46052 Leics-BNS 1O13
86252 BNS-Coventry 1A28
47531 Coventry-Birm Intl 1M03
47552 Birm Int-BNS 1S39
47497 BNS-Birm 1019
31102+31134 Birm Intl-BNS via Soho 1E28  (31134 vo TE f**kin big, even for a goyle!)
86220 BNS-Wolves 1D50
86218 Wolves-BNS 1O92
47537 BNS-Birm INtl 1O86
86242 Birm Intl-BNS 1G35
58007 BNS-Nuneaton 1E60
45113 Nuneaton-Loughboro 1M28
Tram  Loughboro-Leics
31414 Leics-Nuneaton 1M81
45130 Nuneaton-Hinckley 1M82"


Jake (Fig) Atkinson said...
"47 481 1E00 Man Vic-Dewsbury
 40 135 1M51 Dewsbury-Blackpool North
 40 135 1E71 Blackpool North-Newcastle
 HST Newcastle-York
 45 137 1M79 York-Huddersfield

 The only time my pocket money allowed me to do 1E71 throughout!"


 Nick Wheat's moves were...
"47432 Sheffield-Chesterfield
 1M70 1009 Barrow-Nottingham

 47238 Chesterfield-Sheffield
 1E39  0918 Tenby-Hull

 40181 Sheffield-Manchester Picc.
 1M39  1548 Sheffield-Manchester

 47588 Manchester Vic.-Chesterfield
 1M87  1520 Glasgow-Nottingham

 45019 Chesterfield-Sheffield
 1E22?  1645 Paignton-Leeds

 ETH? What's all that about?.....

 PS - Spot the juvenile saturday morning shop worker ;-)"



Jon Harris adds...
"DMU
 45049 xi TO     09.00 Bradford-Weymouth / Roth-Sheff
 HST                 0705  Plymouth-Newcastle / Sheff-Donc
 37139 xo ML (massive) 09.10 Yarmouth - Newcastle / Doncaster -York
 HST                                                                 /York Doncaster
 45127 xe TO Hull - Brighton / Doncaster- Sheffield
 45016 xi TO 09.10 Paignton- Newcastle / Sheffield -Roth
 DMU                                                 / Roth-Sheff
 47238 xos CF       Tenby - Hull / Sheff - Donc
 31441 xe IM      15.43 Cleethorpes - Manchester / Donc -Sheffield

What a summer!



Nick Farrant had the following...
" Locos for me that day were

 45062 / 47404 / 45138 / 31134/102 / 46025 / 45049 / 45149 / 47437 /
 31445 / 45016 / 31441 / 45138"



Richard Boyd writes...
"47283            Manchester - Sheffield           08.02 Manchester - Yarmouth 
 45138            Sheffield - Leeds                    07.39 Leicester - Leeds
 47376            Leeds - New Clee (!)            12.00 Leeds - New Clee Footex (required)
 47376            New Clee - Leeds                 17.00 New Clee - Leeds Footex
 47304            Leeds - Manchester               17.50 Newcastle - Liverpool

 Well, this was a bit of a different day.  It started pretty uneventfully with me heading for Sheffield blind.  At Sheffield
 there was some vague gen about a Leeds-New Clee Footex but no-one knew any times so I just set off for Leeds
 anyway.  Eventually I found out the time of the outward train and, having bought a ticket, managed to get on this Eastern
 monster.  I was very lucky here because some people who were later than me getting tickets had to make do with the
 second relief for this match, a DMU.  But what to do at New Clee which was (and still is) merely a platform and a bus
 shelter?  Part of the problem was that I didn't know the return timings but also in those days all the pubs had to close
 by law at 2pm.  So therefore no retiring to the pub.  This eventually led to myself and the basher I was with sitting for
 about three hours on New Clee station.  Not pleasant but certainly memorable.  And once back in Leeds, 47304 out
 of the blue back to Manchester certainly proved to be the icing on the cake loco-wise.  And to this day I have no idea
 who was playing; presumably Leeds versus either Grimsby or Cleethorpes?"



Gordon Crawford's moves were...
" I did the following;

 87014 1K07 Crewe -Stafford
 87014 1H02 Stafford - Man Picc
 45146 1E52 Man Vic - Dewsbury
 40135 1M51 Dewsbury - Blackpool
 40135 1E71 Blackpool - Newcastle
  Dmu             Newcastle - Carlisle
 85021 1M40 Carlisle - Preston
 47404 1M40 Preston - Man Vic
 86321 1O52 Man Picc - Stafford"


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