Wednesday 02/06/82

Where were you?


Page last Updated :  14-01-07

  The pope visited Cardiff, but where were you?

    Richard Astley recalls...
"I hadn't long started bashing in earnest (about 1 year) and was living in Bristol whilst working my way through my Industrial Training part
 of my HND from Huddersfield Polytechnic. Being as it was Pope day in Cardiff I took a day off work and had the following:

 47119         2115 Penzance - Cardiff (relief)      Bristol TM - Cardiff
 47502         0200 Fishguard - Paddington         Cardiff - Newport
 40148         0118 Bangor - Cardiff (relief)           Newport - Cardiff
 HST            0540 Swansea - Paddington          Cardiff - Newport
 31216/239   0555 Bristol - Cardiff                      Newport - Cardiff
 47202         0735 Cardiff - Swindon (relief)         Cardiff - Newport
 37269         0744 Gloucester - Cardiff                Newport - Cardiff
 37302         1240 Cardiff - Barry Island (relief)    Cardiff - Dinas Powys
 47105         1253 Barry Island - Cardiff (relief)    Dinas Powys - Cardiff
 37256         1345 Cardiff - Bristol                      Cardiff - Newport
 37258         1338 Cardiff - Gloucester                Newport - Severn Tunnel Jct
 47087         1210 Portsmouth - Cardiff               Severn Tunnel Jct - Cardiff
 37257         1707 Cardiff - Bristol (relief)             Cardiff - Newport
 HST            1620 Bristol - Swansea (relief)        Newport - Cardiff
 37295         1825 Cardiff - Barry Island (relief)     Cardiff - Grangetown
 47121         1800 Barry Island - Cardiff (relief)     Grangetown - Cardiff
 45116         2120 Cardiff - Penzance (relief)        Cardiff - Bristol TM

 Being as i required so much back then it was a case of take the newies for as short a distance & get back to Cardiff as quickly as possible
 to see what dropped next. In those days I had no prior gen of what was to work next & all leaps were blind. Even so, I score 6 large NB
 tractors, 2 peds & 2 boilered duffs, so a pretty good day. Sadly 40148 was dud!!!"

  Jeff Hawken writes...
"
A little more detail to add to the gen about Popexes to Cardiff in 1982.

   40148 is shown as having worked 1Z96 ex Bangor (Nigel Hayman's answer).
   In the evening it worked a 2110 departure from Cardiff up the North and West route. The train started 50 minutes late, with 5 people
  
in the cab, and then changed crews at Newport. The combination of route know;edge and traction knowledge on a day when so many
   additional trains were running was proving to be a headache.

   It was a warm and sunny summer evening, and the climb up Llanvihangel bank was particularly memorable, 40148 working hard on
   its load of 10 mark 1s.  The Western Region Special Traffic Notice only showed timings as far as Craven Arms, and gave no destination
   beyond that.  The LMR STN  gave the destination as Shrewsbury.  The public timetable supplement gave the destination as Holyhead.
   Suffice be it to say that when the train rolled up and "terminated" at Shrewsbury, several passengers were already armed with copies
   of the public supplement, demanding to continue their journey to Holyhead (the last DMU connection to Crewe having departed some
   time previously). After some discussion, the Ebbw Junction traincrew took a PNB for 20 minutes, and were then conducted forward to
   Crewe by the traincrew who should have releived them and taken the stock to Oxley.  On arrival at Crewe at 01xx, the train terminated,
   and passengers were invited to join the service to Holyhead waiting for them in the bay (with 474xx). Strangely, the people who had been
   so keen to go to Holyhead when they were at Shrewsbury melted into the background, and nobody made the connection at all! "


Nigel  Hayman writes:  "The following all ran into Cardiff from the early hours of 2/6/82 onwards:
            47186 1Z49 20.40 ex Plymouth
            45009 1Z52 22.30 ex Plymouth
            47538 1Z99 ex Chester
            50007 1Z29 ex Worcester
           47543 1Z26 ex Paignton
            47107 1Z60 ex Paddington
            47202 1Z98 ex Llandudno Junction
            47559 1Z56 ex Paignton
            47530 1Z20 ex Exeter
            47119 1Z40 ex Penzance
            47477 1Z24 ex Bristol TM
            47144 1Z61 ex Westbury
            47478 1Z30 ex ?
            37269 1Z41 ex Barry, then 1Z16 ex Gloucester
            47106 1Z21 ex Stroud
            47429 1Z55 Fishguard - Bristol, then 1Z55 ex Bristol TM
            47459 1Z97 ex Crewe
            47098 1Z99 ex Barry, then 1Z99 ex Bristol Pkwy etc., then 16.13 to Llandudno Jcn
            45076 1Z47 ex Crewe
            47101 1Z38 ex Plymouth
            47103 1Z19 ex Barry, then 1Z19 Chepstow - Milford Haven
            40148 1Z96 ex Bangor
            47015 1Z17 ex ?, then 1Z17 ex Hereford
            47233 1Z90 ex Llandudno Junction
            47079 1Z35 ex Chepstow
            47029 1Z83 ex Hereford, then 12.15 to Portsmouth
            45070 1Z22 ex Penzance
            47177 1Z49 ex Bristol TM
            47491 1Z63 ex Holyhead ?
            47069 1Z35 ex Barry
            47008 1Z91 ex Worcester
            47561 1Z59 ex Weston, then 1Z66 11.45 to Crewe
            47196 1Z56 ex Chepstow
            47121 ex Barry
            45048 1Z77
            47088 1Z09
            47228 1Z94 ex Manchester
            37302 1Z23 ex Bristol TM, 12.35 to Barry Island, 14.15 back, 17.22 Bristol-Cardiff
            37090 08.20 ex Swansea, 15.10 Barry Island - Cardiff
            47361 1Z88 ex Portsmouth
            47087 1Z66 ex Crewe
            47428 1Z69 ex Rock Ferry
            47279 1Z74, then 1Z63 to Holyhead
            47105 1Z52
            47244 1Z46, then 1Z30 18.45 to Birmingham
            37258 1Z97, then 16.59 to Milford Haven
            47142 16.15 to Portsmouth
            47487 1Z28 16.25 to Paignton
            47530 19.12 to Basingstoke
            47079 19.20 to Penzance
            37257 14.55 Cardiff - Barry Island, 17.07 Cardiff - Severn Tunnel Jcn" (Posted 15/04/01).

David Harlott reports the following additions:
"37302, 1Z90 1235 Cardiff Central - Barry Island and 1Z25  1415 Barry Island - Bristol T.M.
37257, 1Z17 1455 Cardiff Central - Barry Island
37090, 1Z40 1510 Barry Island - Bristol T.M.
37258, 1Z23 1525 Gloucester - Milford Haven
37257, 1Z22 1630 Barry Island - Gloucester
31139+31216, 1Z83 1800 Cardiff Central - Portsmouth Harbour
47105, 1Z61 2005 Cardiff Central - Paddington
(and just to be complete 37049, 1P44 2355 Liverpool Street-Ipswich.)"




For details of Pope-ex trains around Manchester follow this link and for full details of all known workings during June 1982 follow this link ..

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