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David Wilson <43100> recalls..."Still on a FoS: Got to Carstairs on the 2310 Edinburgh portion for V60 with one off Haymarket's finest piles of junk - 47269 by which time it was the 1st of September. Then it was: ** Loco No From To Headcode Time From To Mileage Comments 85037 Carstairs Carlisle 1V60 23:25 Glasgow Central Paignton 73.75 27066&47597 Carlisle Stranraer 1S06 21:00 Euston Stranraer 166.25 27066 piloted the train between Newton-on-Ayr and Stranraer Jct 27066&37194 Stranraer Ayr 1A92 07:35 Stranraer Glasgow Central 59.5 27066 piloted the train between Stranraer Station and Ayr 37133 Ayr Edinburgh 1Z46 10:10 Ayr Edinburgh 86.75 ADEX. Via Paisley Gilmour Street, Shields Jct, Larkfield Jct, Bellshill and Shotts 47006 Edinburgh Haymarket ???? 12:47 Edinburgh Preston 1.25 27018 Haymarket Edinburgh 2G49 11:28 Dundee Edinburgh 1.25 27029 Edinburgh Dundee 2L42 13:18 Edinburgh Dundee 59.25 27029 Dundee Inverkeithing 2G75 15:28 Dundee Edinburgh 46 TAXI Inverkeithing Cowdenbeath 25181 Cowdenbeath Edinburgh 2G77 17:10 Cowdenbeath Edinburgh 22.5 25181 Edinburgh Cowdenbeath ???? 18:08 Edinburgh Cowdenbeath 22.5 25181 Cowdenbeath Edinburgh ???? 19:50 Cowdenbeath Edinburgh 22.5 *Total 561.5* We somehow got the gen that 25181 was out on the Cowdenbeath, hence the taxi move from Inverkeithing."
Moves for Friday 31st August & Saturday 1st September 1984 from Julian Lawrance 45014 Northallerton - Leeds
1V48 (20:30 FO Newcastle - Newquay)
45002 Leeds - Bristol TM 1V56 (22:37 FO Bradford - Paignton) 45069 Bristol TM - Exeter 1V47 (23:30 FO Manchester P - Paignton) 45015+47362 Exeter-Paignton 1V57 (22:35 FO Newcastle - Paignton) 45015 Paignton-Bristol (Duff failed) 1E33 (09:10 SO Paignton - Newcastle) 45029 Bristol TM - Taunton 1V71 (08:20 SO Liverpool LS - Paignton) 45002 Taunton - Birmingham 1M22 (11:28 SO Paignton - Manchester P) 45014 Birmingham-Newcastle 1E22 ( 10:04 SO Newquay - Newcastle) Tram Newcastle - Northallerton
'Gorilla' writes... "Kicking off from Glasgow Central, I had required 37194 on the 22:30 to Stranraer, which I note Jon Harris had back out from Stranraer the following morning. I was expecting 47547 back out from Stranraer on the 01:30 to Blackpool, but it had come off at Ayr on the inward journey due to some minor fault. So I had 27056 + 27059 to Ayr (which was an unadvertised stop). There the type 2s were replaced by the booked 47, and I got my head down in a DMU in the bays to go back to work in Glasgow in the morning. After work, I did 47711 on the 14:30 Queen Street - Waverley shove, for a DMU to Cowdenbeath. I'd got the gen that required 25181 was on Fife locals that afternoon, so took it for the novelty value (25s being quite rare in Fife by this time). 25181 17:10 Cowdenbeath - Edinburgh; 18:08 Edinburgh - Cowdenbeath; 19:50 Cowdenbeath - Edinburgh. Finally 47710 took me back to Queen Street with the 21:00 ex Waverley." Pip Dunn says... "My moves for Saturday September 1 1984 were somewhat subdued, and didn't centre around a mega early start. However, the gen came through a double score of Tinsley 20s had gone to Skeg, so I did a unit to New Street for a tram to Derby and a DMU to Long Eaton... then for the ratable combo of
Aimed to head home on a DMU to Brum, but leapt at Tamworth for
and then another DMU back to Brum for a unit home. Looking back at the gen i see two of the handful of '47s' I never
had worked into and out of Brum - 47130
'Biggles' recorded the following move... 47193 Leeds - Appleby 40152 Appleby - Leeds 40152 Leeds - Settle 47193 Mark Skidmore reports ... "47088 Sheffield - Nottingham on 0530 Bradford Weymouth 1O13 dmu to Derby 20054x20176 Derby - Skegness on 0932 Derby Skegness 1E85 20161x20168 Skegness - Leicester on 1158 Skegness Leicester 1M02 dmu to Nuneaton 31416x31403 Nuneaton - Melton Mobray on 1610 Birmingham - Norwich 1E80 31437 Melton Mobray - Leicester on 1720 Peterborough - Birmingham 2M05 47465 Leicester - Sheffield on 1340 Poole Sheffield 1E60 (which occasionally got a 31)" Tim Proudman recalls ... "A lazy lie in after a heavy beer session the night before... then the phone goes and I learn that 40152 is working the Carlisle-Leeds diagram. I can make the afternoon return, with a
bit of luck. Down to Bristol Temple Meads for the 0910 Paignton -
Alan Baylis says ... "I see my mate D5233 has contributed to this so I'll skirt over the Cambrian farce. 85037 Carlisle - B'ham 1V60 2325 Glasgow - Paignton 86257 B'ham - Wolverhampton 1P06 0620 Birmingham - Lancaster DMU Wolverhampton - Shrewsbury ???? 0645 Wolverhampton - Shrewsbury 25193/25282 Shrewsbury - Aberystwyth 2J61 0744 Shrewsbury - Aberystwyth 25193/25282 Aberystwyth - Shrewsbury 1A26 1010 Aberystwyth - Shrewsbury - 25282 became my highest mileage 25 on this trip 25192/25178 Shrewsbury - Forden 1J24 1010 Euston - Aberystwyth - 25192 was one of my last four 25's and was allegedly
not working, well it was on the front of the train so
25285/25286 Forden - Machynlleth 1J24 1010 Euston - Aberystwyth 25285/25286 Machynlleth - Shrewsbury 2J87 1736 Machynlleth - Shrewsbury - spectacular performance up Tallerdigg but still an hour late DMU Shrewsbury - Wolverhampton ???? 2036 Shrewsbury - Wolverhampton EMU Wolverhampton - B'ham ???? 2230 Wolverhampton - B'ham - diverted via Bescot because of suicide."
Nick Wheat writes... "A quick check in my moves book reveals... G-BKPW Gerona-Manchester
Do I win a prize ? ;-)" Alan Lee said... "Amazingly, this is one of the few dates that I still have records for, it was my last day of a 'Freedom of Scotland'. I started on Friday 31.8.84 with the 23:50 Inverness-Glasgow behind 47709, then got various throughout the day on my return to Leicester: 37191,47708,27042,47006,85013 (Glasgow-New St.), and did a total of 4923 miles in the week.IIRC, the tickets were about £27.50 then, so I think I got some good value out of it" DaveB adds... "> 40152 1M26 1555 Leeds - Carlisle Must have been at work. But the day before it was 40099 and I was there." Jon Porter told us... " 01/09/84 was at Crewe then Warrington before a pleasant evening at Stafford and Bescot. Then off home to Reading. Surprise of the day was a Class 40 at Leamington going north on car flats. Anyone know which one it was?" Robert Pollard comments... "> 47078 2F84 0713 Birmingham NS - Leicester (Nuneaton - Leicester) > 47088 1O13 0530 SO Bradford - Weymouth (Loughborough - Leicester) Two of the original named WR 47's in Leicester almost simultaneously
was a notable rarity."
Iain Munro says... "I was only 8 but I was on the lunch time departure from Oban to Glasgow with an unidentified 37. I was travelling back from a family holiday from Mull to Newcastle. I know its a long shot but does anyone know which 37 worked this train." Anthony Hicks recalls... "A photting trip to Taunton for me, to get some shots with the semaphores in. My move was... 50005 1E54 Leamington-Birmingham NS 45136 1V67 Birmingham NS-Taunton 43130+141 1Axx Taunton-Reading 47242 1M40 Reading-Leamington Easily the most hellfire phot of the day was 58002 dragging the failed
12.10 Liverpool-Penzance(?), framed in the massive signal gantry at the
West end of the station. IIRC 58002 worked as far as Plymouth - or was
it Exeter?"
Tim Rogers says... "50031 Bristol Tm - Reading 0835 Weston to Paddington 47538 Reading to Oxford 0854 Brighton to Manchester 47303 Oxford to Birmingham (via Solihull) 0902 Pool to Lime St 43186/185 Birmingham to Sheffield 1110 Cardiff to Newcastle 31406 Sheffield to Rotherham 1341 Man Pic to Hull 37031 Rotherham to Sheffield 1240 Blackpool to Sheffield 47254 Sheffield to Doncaster 0918 Tenby to Hull 47050 Sheffield to Man Pic 1419 Yarmouth to Man Pic 86245 Man Pic to Birmingham New Street 2305 Man Pic to Gatwick 85015 Birmingham New - Willesden 2305 Man Pic to Gatwick 50018 Willesden to London Victoria 2305 Man Pic to Gatwick 33054 Victoria to Gatwick 2305 Man Pic to Gatwick Runs into the Sunday but it got more interesting then!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" 'D5233' writes... "In 1984 I was in the habit of doing B&B in Shrewsbury to cover the Cambrian on the Saturday. For continuity here is the entire move for the whole weekend. Friday 31/8/84 45059 Derby - Cheltenham on the 1420 York - Plymouth relief 1V49
Saturday 1/9/84 25193 + 25282 Shrewsbury - Aberystwyth on 0744 Shrewsbury - Aberystwyth 2J61 25193 + 25282 Aberystwyth - Shrewsbury on 1010 Euston 1A46
Here the train failed with some kind of brake system fault. Despite
repeated 'battering' 25178 just would not run.
Eventually 25285 + 25286 arrived from the Shrewsbury direction and attached
to the rear of the train. Vacuum
285 + 286 were then detached and ran round to remove 178 + 192 giving
the rather spectacular sight of four 25s
Once 178 + 192 had been removed and suitably dumped the move resumed
with a sparkling performance which
25285 + 25286 Forden - Welshpool (powering at rear) 1J24
M59106 Shrewsbury - Wolverhampton. 2036 departure, no way home so an overnight required! 312204 + 304039 Wolverhampton - Birmingham on 2330 additional service via Bescot. 85017 Birmingham - Crewe via Bescot on 1935 Paington - Glasgow Cent 1S39 Sunday 2/9/84 86001 Crewe - Birmingham on 0357 departure 1G00 45136 Birmingham - Alfreton & Mansfield Parkway via Leicester and Toton on 0745 Wolverhampton - York 1E75 URB 823S Trent Bristol VR (still with Leyland 501 engine!) Alfreton & MP - Derby departing at 1035 Home for some doss followed by 45029 Derby - York on 1325 ex Weston-Super-Mare 1E08
Thus endeth a rather fun and farce packed weekend, at least trains ran during the night though :-) I've also put some views of proceedings on the Cambrian that day up at http://www.bcvr.demon.co.uk/forden.html"
'horse_40035' did... "86253 1H04 Crewe - Stockport DMU Stockport - Stalybridge 45064 1E06 Stalybridge - Leeds 31413 1Z76 Leeds - Skipton 40152 1E23 Skipton - Leeds 40152 1M26 Leeds - Carlisle 87012 1M52 Carlisle - Preston 87035 1M47 Preston - Birmingham New Street." Jon Harris had... "47597 xe CD 21.00 Euston-Stranraer / Carlisle - Stranraer (with 27066 pilot from Ayr) 37194 xot TE 07.35 Stranraer-Glasgow/ Stranraer-Glasgow 37172 xo ED 12.04 Glasgow - Dundee Additional / Glasgow -Dundee 47013 xb HA 14.28 Dundee-Edinbro / Dundee-Edinbro 47273 xb HA 16.10 Edinbro-Liverpool / Edinbro-Carstairs 86213 xe WN 16.20 Glasgow-Liverpool / Carstairs - Lancaster 31411 xd HM 19.45 Lancaster- Hull / Lancaster-Leeds Dmu 21.00 Leeds - Doncaster/ Leeds-Doncaster Dmu 22.50 Doncaster- Sheffield / Doncaster-Sheffield" 'Tunnel' writes... " Spent the entire day shuttling back and forth between Cardiff and Bristol, stopping off at various points in between. Details of the day are sketchy, but the highlight, by a country mile, was having 37158 re-engine the 0820 Brighton - Cardiff at Bristol Temple Meads and red - penning it. Also had that day 47291, 47441, 45139, 47340 (more red ink used) and 33016, but I've no idea what trains they were on." Richard Boyd writes... "In summary moves were as follows: 85014
Manchester - Birmingham
22.17(31/8) Manchester - Penzance (required)
The day was memorable for the moral dilemma
I faced at Bristol when I caught up with 50036 on the Manchester
As a final thought, 47240 is now 47818 (still
going) and 47242 became 47814 (just gone off lease). Whilst I didn't
"Clayhead" writes... Due to popular request, a day in 84 has been chosen this time around and so I've chosen 1/9/84. My moves as follows.. 47078 2F84 0713 Birmingham NS - Leicester
(Nuneaton - Leicester)
Other stuff out that day (known as of 06/04/02) includes.. A more upto date list will be found by following this link . 20054+20176 1E85 09.32 Derby - Skegness
So if anyone is interested in posting their moves
for that day onto this page, adding to the above, or just compare
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