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Q. Gary S says... "I have just been loaned a special traffic notice (W1) covering the August Bank Holiday weekend of August 1984.
           Anyone any ideas if the following drags took place and the power involved out of curiosity (!)?


            On Saturday 25th August 1984
the following trains were quoted as being dragged between Euston station and WN97 signal:
            1G11 2325 Sat Euston to Wolverhampton
            1F53 2350 Sat Euston to Liverpool L St
 
            On Sunday 26 August 1984 the following trains were quoted as being dragged between WN58 signal and EN64/65 signal:
            1A01 0030 Manchester P to Euston        31116 dragged 86247 Willesden - Camden  info c/o Alan Baylis
            1M09 2210 Sat Glasgow C to Euston
            1M69 2200 Sat Motorail Stirling to Euston
            1A04 0115 Holyhead to Euston
            1M10 2215 Sat Glasgow C to Euston  

            The following were quoted as being dragged between Euston station and WN97 signal:
            1F53 2350 Sat Euston to Liverpool L St
            1F90 0700 Euston to Liverpool L St (Relief)   86323 to Stafford and was NOT dragged out of Euston  info c/o Alan Baylis
                                                                                          1F90 was an unadvertised Relief service ran each Sunday during the summer of 1984.  Look here for details.


            On Bank Holiday Monday 27 August 1984 the following trains were quoted as being dragged from Willesden WN125 signal and diverted from Wembley Central via Low Level             Goods Line to Willesden WL Jn:
            1A01 0030 Manchester P to Euston
            1M09 2310 Sun Glasgow C to Euston
            1M11 2320 Sun Glasgow C to Euston
            1M04 0115 Holyhead to Euston
            1M10 2215 Sun Glasgow C to Euston
            1M16 1930 Sun Inverness to Euston
            1M15 2030 Sun Inverness to Euston
            and
            1G11 0010 Euston to Wolverhampton was quoted as being dragged from Euston to Willesden WN86 signal and diverted from Willesden WL Jn via
            Low Level Goods Line to Wembley Central.

            In addition to 1A02 0235 Euston to Bletchley being diesel hauled (25201/25239 quoted here) on the Sunday morning, 2A23 0350 Euston to Bletchley
            was also quoted for diesel haulage on Monday morning.
             "It was 31149 that did the booked diesel power on the 2A23 0350 Euston-Betchley throughout early on 270884" info c/o Nick Ross.


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Q.  Jason Ralphs asks..."Could anyone help me with some info I am missing from my moves
            from the early eighties with dates and train details?


             I did 37300 from Birmingham New St to Bristol Temple Meads on a late
            night departure from Birmingham New St some time in 1984 or 1985?"

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Q.  Dave W says..."I had 31408 + 47575 on a passenger train in1981 (I think it was in the Yorkshire area), but I have lost my haulage book for that period
            and I would like to know what train it was and why and when the 31 was put on the front?

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Q.  Gary S says..."Following on from the famous Bletchley - Coventry dragging on 1st September 1985, they were supposed to be at it again the following
            Sunday (8th) but this time south of Bletchley in connection with Engineering operations at Hemel Hempstead South Jn and Watford North Jn.
 
            The following trains were quoted as being dragged from Bletchley:
 
            1O52 2301 Sat Manchester P - Gatwick Airport (to Willesden WN34 Signal)
            1A01 0030 Manchester P - Euston
            1M11 2205 Sat Glasgow C - Euston
            1A04 0115 Holyhead - Euston
            1M69 2200 Sat Motorail Stirling - Euston
            1M10 2215 Sat Glasgow C - Euston
            1M14 2200 Sat Stranraer - Euston
            1M16 1930 Sat Inverness - Euston
 
            In addition, 1A02 0235 Euston - Bletchley was quoted as diesel hauled for balancing purposes.
 
            Given the events of the previous weekend maybe somebody took an interest in these workings. Personally, I wasn't out that day which was unusual
            so I must have been suffering from major cash exhaustion but have no recollection of these workings at all.


            Can anyone confirm the exact date or the power involved for the above dragging assuming, of course, that it did indeed occur?"

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Q. Gary S says... "A further trawl through some STN's revealed some potential for some interesting workings from a local (well local to me!) perspective. Anyone know
            what worked the following:
 
            Sunday 3rd June 1984, 1O52 2305 (Sat) Manchester P-Gatwick Airport was due to be dragged between Bletchley and Willesden with a light diesel movement from
            Bescot to cover. This was also due to be repeated on Sunday 10th June with again a light diesel movement from Bescot quoted to drag between Bletchley and
            Willesden WN34 signal.
 
            Sunday 15th July was a very busy morning for charter traffic through Leighton Buzzard. Out of curiosity, anyone know the power and who these ran for:
 
            1Z68 0710 Milton Keynes-Portsmouth Hbr & return (0724 dep LB/2203 rtn) with loco change quoted at Mitre Bridge (0821/0833 outward, 2050/2102 return)
 
            1Z09 0723 Rugby-Yarmouth & return (0817 dep LB/2221 rtn) Through diesel with ECS ex Oxley
 
            1T05 0730 Euston-Welshpool & return (0821 dep LB/2128 rtn). The outward was supposed to be dragged from Bletchley (dep 0834) to Wolverhampton via
            Northampton and Nuneaton! The return was due to be dragged from Wolverhampton to Nuneaton. 
 
            And finally ... on Tuesday 17th July, 1T05 0857 Leighton Buzzard-Kidderminster & 1505 return with loco change quoted at Coventry (0944/0954 outward, 1600/1613 return) 
 
           
            Any info on the above trains gratefully received to cure my curiosity."
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Q. Gary S says... "Is there anyone out there who could supply me scanned timings pages (or photocopies or an unwanted copy) of the following:
Sunday 13th May 1984 from Special Traffic Notice W1 No. 20 (12/05/84 to 18/05/84) and
Monday 20th August 1984 to Friday 24th August from Special Traffic Notice M No. 34 (18/08/84 to 24/08/84).
If so please contact me via the webmaster."   NOTE :   If you can help with scans of the above... please send to Clayhead and he will forward them on to Gary, otherwise,
as requested by Gary, contact us, and we'll pass your details onwards .


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Q. Simeon Gaskell is looking for a date of a Liverpool trip...
          "
I am trying to pin down a date for a trip I made when a kid to Liverpool Lime Street, around March/April 1982. (Definite limits are between 23rd Feb and 29th May).
         It was probably a Saturday but could be a weekday if in the school holidays. I was there I guess between about 09.30 and 15.00 and photographed 45111 ariving
         on a passenger service first, then leaving on another passenger service. Then 87007 running on to its train, then 40145 on the blocks next to 85026, though I
         don't know for sure if either had arrived on passenger services. Finally 47404 was seen and 47402 photographed stabled between platforms.
         Any help most gratefully received."

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Q.  Steve Lawton has a couple of queries relating to excursions from back in the 1970's...
         

	"I was on a Adex from Burton to Rhyl one Sunday sometime in 1974/5 and I have some questions connected with this.
On our way out the North Wales Coast we passed a number of DMU vehicles on fire in a siding which IIRC were
somewhere in the Chester area. Does anybody have a date for this as it would possibly identify the train
that we were on. I think that the train we were on was hauled by a pair of type 2's. Hope somebody can help?"

&

"Did a Burton - Blackpool Mystex in 1975 run formed of MK2 AB stock. I believe that it was 45026 and was late
September of that year. Can this be confirmed?"

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Q. Mike Kerry would like to know... "Time and destination for the following Manchester Victoria area mail trains in 1987

    3J00
    3J20
    3J05
 
    And In 1986

    3J10

    And In 1985

    Headcode for 18.05 Blackpool - Man Vic?"

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Q. James Blair asks... "Does anyone have any information as to what hauled a Brighton to Harrogate Chartex on 20/1/86. It was routed via Clapham Jct and the Midland Main Line. Does anyone have any record of what hauled this service and the return Chartex on 22/1/86 please?"

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Q. Pete Drury asks... "On Tuesday 23/8/1983 I Caught 1S92? from Preston dep 0025, previous nights Euston-Stranraer, 81005 to Carlisle, 47555 from
          Carlisle.At Girvan the 47 slipped to a stand and was assisted in the rear by a pair of class 20's, does anybody know which 20's ?"


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Q. Chris Cowley says... "When I was 11 on our way home from holiday, my dad took me to Tiverton Jct for an hour and we saw the following
          pass onexpresses:
          45055/060,46023,47033/503, 50005/24/42/49 & HST's 253018/040/043.
          Can anyone help me to find out the DATE it was that day? It was a hot afternoon in August 1983 I think.


Saturday 13th August 'may' be a possible data as have managed to find workings for three of the above locos, 45055 (1V67), 46023 (1E22) and 50042(Newquay-Padd) all of which would have been through Tiverton Jct within a hour or two.  Can anyone come up with a better match?

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Q.  Neil Dodd would like some help filling in the missing service details from his haulage records.  Any help appreciated.
Date Loco No Headcode Time Origin Destination From To Notes
05/11/1983 50044     Plymouth London Paddington Newton Abbot Exeter St.Davids Train unknown, 0934 off Newton Abbot.
27/05/1984 31437         Derby Birmingham New Street Train unknown. 1500ish ex Derby???
01/07/1984 33032    0954 Waterloo  Weymouth Quay  Bournemouth Branksome
Gen c/o ...
Nigel Jordan

1/07/1984 33112         Branksome Poole Train unknown
05/08/1984 47545         Newton Abbot Exeter St.Davids No other gen, Sunday late afternoon ex NTA. 1A56 or 1B64.
02/04/1985 87019         Wolverhampton Crewe Train unknown. Early afternoon ex Wolves.
03/04/1985 87001     Liverpool Lime Street   Liverpool Lime Street Crewe Train unknown. Early afternoon ex Lime St.
04/04/1985 47492    1005 CREWE  PENZANCE  Crewe Wolverhampton RELIEF  No other gen. 1005 ex Crewe.
04/04/1985 86402         Wolverhampton Birmingham New Street Train unknown. Midday ex Wolves.
04/04/1985 45121         Birmingham New Street Cheltenham Spa Train unknown. Mid afternoon ex New Street.
27/05/1985 50001   16:38 Paignton London Paddington Newton Abbot Exeter St.Davids Relief Service - Headcode unknown
16/06/1985 47556     Birmingham New Street Plymouth Exeter St.Davids Newton Abbot No other gen. after 1900 from ESD.
25/08/1985 47716   10:00 Edinburgh Haymarket TMD Edinburgh Haymarket TMD Open Day shuttle service. headcode unknown
26/02/1986 50034   15:50 Newton Abbot Paignton Newton Abbot Torre Relief Service.
31/03/1986 50002   16:38 Paignton London Paddington Newton Abbot Taunton Relief service - headcode unknown.
31/03/1986 50009   16:09 Penzance London Paddington Exeter St.Davids Taunton Relief service - headcode unknown.
01/04/1986 50049   16:38 Paignton London Paddington Dawlish Taunton Relief service - headcode unknown.
17/05/1986 87035       Birmingham New Street Wolverhampton Birmingham New Street Train unknown - 14xx ex Wolves.
25/05/1986 87001  1S57
0945   London Euston
gen c/o Andre.
Glasgow Central Preston Lancaster Train unknown. 1500 at Lancaster.
21/06/1986 33103   18:57 London Waterloo Salisbury Woking Salisbury Control Rlf Waterloo - Salisbury, First NSE Day. Headcode unknown.
21/06/1986 47258   18:57 London Waterloo Yeovil Junction Salisbury Yeovil Junction Control Rlf Waterloo - Salisbury, extended to Yeovil Junction. First NSE Day.
18/08/1986 47707   22:15 Edinburgh Glasgow Queen Street Edinburgh Glasgow Queen Street Headcode unknown - Relief
13/09/1986 33027   18:57 London Waterloo Yeovil Junction London Waterloo Salisbury In multiple with 33102- Control Relief NSE Day headcode unknown.
13/09/1986 33102   18:57 London Waterloo Yeovil Junction London Waterloo Salisbury In multiple with 33027 - Control Relief NSE Day headcode unknown
27/03/1987 86xxx 1S19 21:24 Bristol Temple Meads Edinburgh Carlisle Carstairs Unknown class 86.
20/04/1987 50023   12:00 Plymouth London Paddington Exeter St.Davids Taunton Relief service - headcode unknown.
20/04/1987 47656   11:20 Birmingham New Street Penzance Taunton Newton Abbot Relief service or Control Spl.
20/04/1987 47600   10:21 Edinburgh Plymouth Exeter St.Davids Plymouth Relief Service
24/06/1987 50xxx 2C37 08:17 Paignton Exeter St.Davids Torre Dawlish Unknown class 50
27/06/1987 50027    1V76
  gen c/o   
  Andre
14:00 
York Plymouth Exeter St.Davids Newton Abbot Dragging failed HST - Headcode unknown.
08/07/1987 50xxx 2C37 08:17 Paignton Exeter St.Davids Torre Dawlish Unknown class 50
16/07/1987 50xxx 2C37 08:17 Paignton Exeter St.Davids Torre Dawlish Unknown class 50
15/09/1987 50xxx 2C37 08:17 Paignton Exeter St.Davids Torre Exeter St.Davids Unknown class 50
23/09/1987 50xxx 2C37 08:17 Paignton Exeter St.Davids Torre Exeter St.Davids Unknown class 50
07/12/1987 47xxx 1C02 00:05 London Paddington Penzance Plymouth Liskeard Unknown class 47 (Large logo?). Was 47588 from Padd.
20/12/1987 86xxx 1A07 07:40 Liverpool Lime Street London Euston Crewe Stafford Unknown class 86.
01/01/1988 47616   09:18 Bristol Temple Meads Plymouth Newton Abbot Plymouth Headcode unknown. Bank Holiday working.
14/01/1988 50xxx 1V12 12:03 Portsmouth Harbour Paignton Exeter St.Davids Newton Abbot Unknown class 50
15/01/1988 50xxx 2C37 08:17 Paignton Exeter St.Davids Torre Newton Abbot Unknown class 50
25/02/1988 86xxx 1S83 15:30 London Euston Glasgow Central Carlisle Glasgow Central Unknown class 86.
09/03/1988 50xxx 2C19 17:25 Exeter St.Davids Paignton Exeter St.Davids Torre Unknown class 50
23/03/1988 50xxx 1F88 18:30 Penzance Bristol Temple Meads Plymouth Newton Abbot Unknown class 50
06/04/1988 47658   11:33 Leeds Torquay Exeter St.Davids Torquay Scillonian VIP Spl. Headcode unknown.
06/05/1988 86xxx 1G32 13:40 London Euston Wolverhampton Birmingham International Birmingham New Street Unknown class 86.
06/05/1988 86xxx 1M40 17:32 Poole Liverpool Lime Street Birmingham New Street Crewe Unknown class 86.
26/06/1988 47278   22:00 London Euston Edinburgh Preston Edinburgh Control special with one Motorail coach and one half brake after Ada and Bill over booked.Headcode unknown. 1Z77?
27/08/1988 86xxx 1A44 09:20 Aberystwyth London Euston Wolverhampton Birmingham New Street Unknown class 86.
14/09/1988 86xxx 1V33 21:50 Edinburgh Plymouth Carstairs Birmingham New Street Unknown class 86.
15/09/1988 87xxx 1S19 21:05 Plymouth Glasgow Central Birmingham New Street Carstairs Unknown class 87.
11/03/1989 33119   19:26 Basingstoke Reading Basingstoke Reading Headcode unknown.
23/07/1989 47574     Birmingham New Street Liverpool Lime Street Wolverhampton Stafford Headcode & Time unknown. 18xx ex BNS 1Fxx.
29/10/1989 47462     Bristol Temple Meads Liverpool Lime Street Bristol Temple Meads Bristol Parkway Headcode & Time unknown 16xx ex BTM. Rtn of 1V54 vex Preston.
14/11/1989 47626    1A31
 gen c/o
  Andre

07:40  
Plymouth London Paddington Newton Abbot Exeter St.Davids Vice HST. Headcode unknown 1Axx.



Q.  Jason Warner recalls the following :
         
"
I looked though my old books and can say that on the Monday 24th March 1986 56040 worked Nuneaton-St Pancras and return.

           That day they diverted WCML expresses down the MML -noted in order that day at Kettering were:
            47446/47119/31145/31427/25205/45129/56040/45145/31110/45106/45132/45117."

           Does anyone out there have any further details of the disruption to the WCML on this day?
           Can you ID any of the services worked by the locos above, or do you know of others?

	Nick Ross as added the following comments... "High winds had brought the wires down at South Kenton,
Roade and also Rugby plus other points South of Rugby, Believe very little Southern WCML
dragging just diversions to Padd and Pancras. A 58 is also claimed to have dragged to Pancras.
By mid afternoon of 240386 limited through electric haulage of services to/from had resumed.."
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Q.  Brian Sherrington asks... 
            A picture I took of 26046 at Newcastle working 5G19 2002 Newcastle to Craigentinny ECS on 16th November 1984.
            There was a stopping train from Edinburgh to Newcastle that left Waverley at around 1700-1715 calling at most stations arriving at Newcastle at 1930ish.
            (2E19 1718 Edinburgh - Newcastle recoded 1E19 from Dunbar according to 1H84)  Did 26046 work this on
16th November 1984?  
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Q.    Brendan Kilgallon asks...  "I am looking for any gen regarding 25025(D5175) on passenger trains. Any info at all would be gratefully received.
             Anyone with an interest specifically in classes 24/35/26/27 can join my yahoo group:
             Preserved_24_25_26_27_Gen-subscribeATyahoogroups.co.uk   replacing AT with @."
 
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Q.     'Ned' says... Remember those gen sheets listing summer services and headcodes that were created and passed around, especially during the late 80's?
            I had one such sheet from 1989, so I know at least one such sheet existed for that year, but I have lost my copy somewhere over time, and now that
            I'm finally getting around to peacing together my old moves from scraps of paper, I'm struggling a bit for headcodes from that year especially.  I've
            found quite a few codes here on 'Timewarp' while 'UK Headcodes'  as also been of help, but would be very greatful if anyone has a copy of a
            1989 sheet, could they possibly scan it in and pass on to me via this site?

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Q.  Alister Betts says...
	25/8/79 did a Brokenhurst – Chester ADEX – was 33103 to/from Mitre Bridge Junction.  Had an
86 to Crewe and a 40 to Chester, which I believe to have been 40084 ( other records show that
it should have been at CD at the right time). Not sure if we had the same 40 back to Crewe.
The return descended into chaos with our roarer failing somewhere around Stafford, I recall
a 47/3 being involved and also a loco change at Northampton, bizarrely….. can anyone help
fill the gaps?
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Note :  The webmaster suggests that to answer the next three queries, scan the relevant documents at 200dpi and save in TIF file format.
             email the scans to us and we'll then pass them on.

Q.  Nigel Curtis asks...
        If anyone has any details of the Severn Valley diesel gala for October 1989?   I am after the timetable for the Severn Valley Diesel Gala on Saturday 14th October
           1989. I need a copy of the timetable along with which locos worked which services, my copy having been lost in several house moves.  I know the locos were
           D9000, D9019 (I think), D7633, D100, D1013 & D1062.

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Q.  Nigel Curtis asks...
    "I am after times for the Severn Valley diesel gala for a Saturday in October
1987, locos included two Westerns, two Deltics, D100 and a class 25,
can anyone email me the timetable along with which service each loco
worked plus the identities of the locos, the timetable I had has been
lost in several house moves."

John Ditcham says... "
I don't have the timetable for the 10th October 1987 diesel gala, but know at least the following workings:

55 019 11:00 Kidd - Bnorth
D1013 11:42 Bnorth - Kidd
D1062 13.00 Kidd - Bnorth
27 059 13.54 Highley - Kidd
44 004 13.42 Bnorth - Kidd
55 019 15:00 Kidd - Bnorth"
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Q.  Nigel Curtis asks...
    "I am after train times, services and headcodes for Exeter St Davids for
the weekend - Friday 26/09/86 and Saturday 27/09/86 for the overnight
services between 22:00 on 26/09 and 09:00 on 27/09 including parcels,
TPO's, ECS, local and holidaymaker services, extracts from a working
timetable would help. I spent the night on the station photographing
most services but failed to record which service was which!"
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Q. Tony Dew would like to know if....
          There are any istances of Steam hauled specials running between London King's Cross - York in 1980 (or a year or so either side) ?

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Q.  David Swann says..."Overnight E.C.M.L. 'Heavy' Class 47 hauled passenger/sleeper/motorail trains from Scotland to London were diverted(due to engineering work
           and ran via the coast from Newcastle through Sunderland,Hartlepool and on to Eaglescliffe before joining the main line again at Northallerton,rumour had it at the
           time that due to 'wheel slip' trains were piloted between Newcastle+Eaglescliffe,from memory at the time 37072/37167/37075 were mentioned amounts others.  The
           train that seemed to be in question at the time was 1E43 the 1920 Aberdeen-KX   I know for a fact that this was normally loaded to about 16 with Mk.3 sleepers,
           guvs+Mk2 opens.

          
One Sunday during the winter months(probably 1984) I did my normal Sunday afternoon move; 14.42 Nottingham - Glasgow (scotch) to Sheffield  To cover the
           two steam heat diagrams (1O92 Leeds  -Portsmouth & 1E08 B/ham-Leeds) both steaming Peaks that day, on my arrival at Sheffield rumours were rife that 37167
           had piloted a 'generator' on E43 that morning between Newcastle  -Eaglescliffe, so much so the following Saturday night I decided to check this out, early
           evening I travelled from my home in Nottingham to Newark, then on to York and eventually Newcastle (via an HST and a 47 on a late 'pennine') after what
           was quite a long night on the beer and a bit of a 'fester 'back at Central station I learned that 1E43 was 30 'down' 47144 was waiting at the end of the platform,
           I thought this is it 'the pilot' I spoke to the driver he said due to loss of power on E43 it would be piloted to York which it was, 47402 approached slowly
           and both 47's ran to York where 47474 took over."


            Can anyone confirm if there were booked pilot duties, when ECML turns were diverted, and if so, suggest dates when the above may have occurred?

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Q. Brendan Kilgallon asks... "In the 1980's ? we travelled on a pair of green? 26's from Inverness to Kyle and back.  I think 26001 and 26007.  It was the first
          Sunday diesel hauled train and made it into the Scotsman. Could someone please confirm the date and engines used."
         
            Can't be 1980's as no green Class 26s on the mainline, 26001 & 26007 repainted green in July & August 1992.  The pair made their passenger debut
            working 1Z47 0835 Edinburgh - Oban special (ADEX?) and they were withdrawn August 1994, so must the working can be narrowed down to that
            two year period?

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Q.  Kevin Daniel requires details of HST formations recorded on the Western Region during 1976/77/78. Observations of HST formations (power cars and
        trailers) in service, on test/crew training/delivery runs, accompanied by an accurate date and location would be welcome. Identification of any service
        working would be a bonus. Observations of formations or "loose" vehicles on depot or works are also of use. Kevin is willing to negotiate payment for
         such information and can be contacted at hstdaniel@tiscali.co.uk

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Q. Mick asks... "Does anybody have the info for Sunday 20th Jan 1991 Pennine workings.
            I travelled from York on the 1805? Newcastle - Liverpool  which was 47443, but would like to Know what went north that evening as I have
            no account what I got to York on..."

          Bigbird says..."
47422 is a possibility but cannot guaranteed. I had it on 1M10 1020 NCL-LIV which after release at Lime St. may have done 17xx LIV-NC
          which makes 1M48 1807 NCL-LIV at York. (47443)."

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Q. Daniel Pearson asks..."Could anybody tell me any of the locos that worked the following on 10th August 1984:

                07:45 1M70 Cardiff - Crewe
                11.45 1M84 Cardiff - Crewe
                10.03 1V04 Crewe - Cardiff


          Any info for any of this day would help."

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Q.  Mick asks..."Anybody know the route a Euston-Halifax charter took on 27th October 1990. I believe it was a Rugex (GB v Aus) 86210 took it to Nuneaton then
           47846 the rest of the way. I would like to work out the mileage Nuneaton-Leeds."

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Q.  Ric asks...  "How far did 47805 work the 25-55 Paddington to Penzance sleeper on the night of 13/14th September 1992?"
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Q.  David Platt wrote:  "I have been researching the 'Flying Scotsman' service throughout its 'Special Scotch Express' and 'Flying Scotchman' days from 1862 to the 1924
            'officially promoted'Flying Scotsman' service at the British Empire Exhibition then BR's 'The Flying Scotsman'. Steam era only. Does anyone
            know when a headboard, bearing any of these names, was *first* used?"
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Q.   'SS' askes..."I'm trying to find which locos worked the Poole - Glasgow/Edinburgh Sleepers on 29/05/90 Northbound and 30/05/90 Southbound.
                No doubt a 47 for an electric forward from New Street, but which ones please if possible?
                I also remember a change of locos after reversal at Glasgow Central too. Is this correct?

                I seem to recall it attached to a service ex-Plymouth at New Street before going up the WCML. What might have done the shunting there?

                Were the headcodes 1M87 and 1S19 for the Northbound journey?"
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Q.    Peter Scott writes..."I recently got the computer to compare the gen on timewarp with my own moves and it threw out some interesting anomalies.  Certainly
               makes you think about the accuracy of the things you wrote down.
               Anyway, it's mostly 40s so if you could be so good and do a bit of checking for me I would be extremely grateful

                09-08-1980
                I have: 40109 1D31 1105 Manchester Victoria to Holyhead
                TW has: 40115 1D31 1105 Manchester V - Holyhead

                It's possible I have got mixed up as 1D11 and 1D31 were fairly close together up the coast.
               

                I was bashing that day and flagged 40115 on the 1105 Man Vic - Holyhead at Warrington in favour of 40086 on the
                0908 Scarborough - Ludo.  Steve Marshall - Globe Videos.


                29-08-1980
                I have: 40029 1D32 0841 Stoke-on-Trent to Llandudno
                TW has: 40055 1D32 0841 Stoke-on-Trent - Llandudno

                13-09-1980
                I have: 47107 1D41 1418 Crewe to Holyhead
                TW has: 40035 1D41 1418 Crewe - Holyhead

                18-02-1981
                I have: 40120 1D34 0747 Manchester Victoria to Bangor
                TW has: 40107 1D34 0747 Manchester Victoria - Bangor

                I have: 40120 1J30 1130 Bangor to Manchester Victoria
                TW has: 40107 1J30 1130 Bangor - Manchester Victoria

                   40120 was out that afternoon working 1D21/1J31, as confirmed by  'D.Trains.'
                  
The previous day, 40107 worked 1D34/1J30, with 40120 out later with 1D21/1J31 with the date of this swap probably confused in reports added to our records.

                22-05-1981
                I have: 40120 1J39 1718 Llandudno to Manchester Victoria
                TW has: 40092 1J39 1718 Llandudno - Manchester Victoria

                I have: 40091 1D21 1540 Manchester Victoria to Bangor
                TW has: 40120 1D21 1540 Manchester Victoria - Bangor

                Complete mix up here by one of us...

                06-07-1981
                1D21 was a duff... I just have 47xxx in my moves.  Any ideas?

                47479  
'D.Trains.'

                25-07-1981
                I have: 47202 1J66 0942 Llandudno to Manchester Victoria
                TW has: 47242 1J66 0942 Llandudno - Manchester V

                47202 as confirmed by
'D.Trains.'

                19-08-1981
                I have: 40131 1J53 1513 Holyhead to Manchester Victoria
                TW has: 40106 1J53 1513 Holyhead - Manchester Victoria

                22-07-1982
                I have: 47475 1J53 1517 Holyhead to Manchester Victoria
                TW has: 40194 1J53 1517 Holyhead - Manchester Victoria

                I think 40194 failed at Holyhead.

                22-08-1982
                I have: 40145 1D54 0835 London Euston to Holyhead
                TW has: 40049 1D54 0835 London Euston - Holyhead

               
'D.Trains.'  confirms 40145 as working 1D54 on this date.

                02-09-1982
                I have: 40081 1D34 0745 Manchester Victoria to Bangor
                TW has: 40084 1D34 0745 Manchester Victoria - Bangor

                I have: 40081 1J30 1157 Bangor to Manchester Victoria
                Alan Baylis confirms 40081 worked 1J30 on this date... he took the train from Warrington.
                TW has: 40084 1J30 1157 Bangor - Manchester Victoria
A.

Q.     Richard Denny asks..." I am a train driver and did my class 47 training on the 0920 (I think) from Brighton on the
                following dates: 16/05/91, 20/05/91, 03/06/91 & 11/06/91.  On 11/06/91 we got off at Kensington Olympia and
                worked a class 47 back to Brighton. I didn't record the locos numbers and now all these years later would love to
                know which class 47 they were. I know it's a long shot but maybe someone out there bashed these trains?

                'Bigbird' says... "
On Tuesday 11th June I travelled on 1S76 0918 Brighton - Glasgow from Reading - New St. with 47572. Whether it came from
                    Brighton or came on at Reading I cannot say."

A.

Q.    Gray Carraway says..."On 20/07/84, I returned from honeymoon from Penzance to Paddington on the 1A53 09:32 working. I know it was 50 hauled
                throughout (including a lengthy layover at Plymouth for loco examination), but in my conjugal happiness I forgot to record which one. Any help
                much appreciated."
A.

Q.   Nick Blyth says...  "I am trying to find out if anyone out there was spotting at King's Cross on Sunday August 2nd 1974 - and wrote down the numbers of the locos
             arriving on  passenger trains between 11.45am and 12.15pm - I was on a southbound - possibly Deltic hauled - rake of MK1 coaches, I was only 8 months old - but
             my elder brother thinks we had 55010 up - and perhaps a 47 on the way back.    This is the only loco I've had that I don't have the number for and it would
             be so good to complete my lifetime haulage list!
"

.A.

Q. Alan asks...  "On 3rd July 1990, a train bound for Dundee departed from Edinburgh Waverley.   This train departed Edinburgh Waverley at approximately 1130hrs. I
         understand that this train reached Kirkcaldy at about 1200hrs and may not have proceeded any further. Does anyone know what type of train this was and
         the number? Does anyone know why the train did not proceed beyond Kirkcaldy, assuming this was the case? "

.A.

Q. John Batchelor asks... "Does anyone know what loco's worked a Silver Jubilee day ADEX from Birmingham to Llandudno on 7th June 1977?

           I was only 10 years old and am hoping that I may be able to scratch a massive 40!!
.A.

Q. Colin Brooks asks... "Can anyone confirm workings for the following locos on Wednesday 19th August 1987?
         These were all working around the Bristol / Cardif area  :  33023,  47102, 33017 & 33027.

   
.A.      
    "I have no record of 47102 or 33023 working in South Wales that day  however I have the following records for 33017 and 33027 working into Cardiff

    33017 1V38 08.10 Portsmouth to Cardiff   &  1O42 13.05 Cardiff to Portsmouth
    33027 2V58 06.56 Portsmouth to Cardiff   ,  1O41 12.06 Cardiff to Portsmouth , 1V58 11.10 Portsmouth to Cardiff , 1O96 15.10 Cardiff to Brighton
                1V77 14.10 Portsmouth to Cardiff   &  1O47 18.10 Cardiff to Portsmouth"
Alan Lea

               Further info re 47102 & 33023 is still required...

Q. Steve Messenger asks..."I remember doing a Mystex from Cardiff to Clacton in 1979/80 ish which featured a steam heat Class 47 to Kensington Olympia for
          37266 to  Clacton and return   Anyone got more details such as a date and confirmation of the 47.

          Also in the same time period there was a Cardiff to York Merrymaker which featured 47142 Cardiff to York & York to Swindon where the
          bolier failed and 37247 worked forward  from Swindon to Cardiff via Gloucester.  Again I need a date & train details"

.A.

Q. Graeme Salt  asks the following :."

        1.   Can anyone confirm or deny that 40034 worked the Manchester - Harwich boat train between Piccadilly and Sheffield on either 09/04/80 or 10/04/80?

        2. 46056 worked a NE - SW service on 25/04/81, possibly 1V67 06.37 Leeds - Paignton. Can anyone confirm the train, and how far it worked?
             If it was V67, the diary pages have 45073 going forward from Gloucester.

             Also out that day was:
             50019 1O18 14.20 Exeter - Waterloo

   
.A.

Q. Colin Brooks asks... "On Saturday 22nd November 1986 -   Which 47 worked the folowing services - may be same 47

        1M14  1140 Poole - Liverpool Lime Street between Poole - Reading &
        1O03   0710 Liverpool Lime Street - Poole (from Reading to Poole)

        Also can anyone identify what 47 616 worked on that day?

          Also: 
          31 222 worked 0710 Lowestoft - Londo Liverpool Street  (either a Wednesday / thursday) in November 1983.  Can anyone suggest an exact date?

Q.  Does anyone have track plans of  Stoke Cockshute sheds (after the mid 70's) that they could scan for  possible use on a planned webpage for this site (and a modling progect?)
             Also scans of photos of the depot from that period (or earlier) for use on the site or otherwise?  Any details of locos recorded 'on shed' would also be welcome.
            
.A.

Q.  Richard Barrack asks... "In the '70s, particularly the 1970-75 period, block oil (or some sort of petroleum) trains passed through Knottingley on the line to
           and from Goole. They were often 100t bogie tankers and had company branding such as (if memory serves) Gulf, Fina and maybe Texaco.

            They were usually I think, class 37 hauled though some may also have been 47 hauled.  My curiosity was reawakened by the article on tanker trains in the Feb
            07 Rail Express which, despite showing refineries and distribution points, fails to answer my question "where was this flow of fuel going from and to?"

            I think by the way, the tank trains turned south via Knottingley East and South junctions towards Doncaster, probably heading (or originating from) the
            Immingham area.   But where were they working to. Was it Hull? And what was the purpose?"

.
A.

Q.   Is there anyone out there reading this who was was on the RESL Scottish railrover that week 8th-15th August 1982 who can confirm the itinery/dates for the
            loco hauled sections?

.
A.
Q. Brian Kirby asks... "In Dec 1980 on a Sunday before Christmas, I travelled westbound over Woodhead on a diverted 07:40 St.Pancras to Man.Picc. train. The
          Class 45 pulling (with plenty of welly) had taken over the train after an earlier diversion and reversal at Stenson Jct, south of Derby. On arrival at Man.Picc., I
           remember  the loco was named Royal something, which means it was either "Royal Marines"  or "Royal Signals", but which one ? The coaching stock was
           old Mk1 compartment stock, possibly a Bedford commuter rake, not the usual Midland air-con coaches."
A.

Q. John Ditcham says... "What worked the following?
	08.06.78 :    07.30 Edinburgh - Liverpool Lime St (Edin - Carstairs & Carstairs - Preston)
23.08.78 : 10.00 Edinburgh - Aberdeen
31.08.78 : 1E11 10.30 Aberdeen - Kings Cross (Aberdeen - Edinburgh)
27.10.78 : 09.15 Edinburgh - WCML (Edin - Carstairs & Carstairs - Carlisle)
17.11.78 : 17.30 Edinburgh - Birmingham NS (Edin - Carstairs & Carstairs - Preston)
19.11.78 : 16.45 Liverpool Lime St - Edinburgh (Liverpool - Preston & Carstairs - Edin)
27.03.79 : 10.00 Edinburgh - Euston (diverted Flying Scotsman) Edinburgh - Carlisle
05.04.79 : 09.30 Euston - Edinburgh (Penmanshiel diversion) Carlisle (or Carstairs?) - Edin
14.07.79 : 09.15 Edinburgh - WCML (Edin - Carstairs)
30.05.80 : 2O02 06.10 Edinburgh Waverley - Glasgow QS
30.05.81 : 1C90 07.17 Edinburgh - Carstairs
: 1M33 07.35 Glasgow Central - Carlisle
06.06.81 : 1M34 07.35 Glasgow Central - Carlisle
30.10.81 : 1C87 09.08 Edinburgh - Carstairs
: 1M24 09.23 Glasgow Central - Birmingham NS
27.03.82 : 1C90 07.12 Edinburgh - Carstairs
: 1M33 07.30 GLasgow Cent - Birminhgam NS
04.04.84 : 1O85 16.10 Bristol TM -Portsmouth
09.04.86 : 14.06 Birmingham NS - Glasgow Central
08/09.02.87 Overnight Edin / Glasgow - Plymouth (leaving late on 08.02) What worked Carstairs - Carlisle?
10.06.90 : 1M12 19.50 (10.06.90) Aberdeen - Euston (Edin - Carstairs & Carstairs - Carlisle)
26.07.92 : 1S07 22.15 (25.07.92) Euston - Fort Willliam (preston - Carlisle)"

Q. Jason Hall says..."Thanks for posting my recent set of questions. I am slowly managing to fill in the gaps. Sadly though some new ones have come
        to light! Could you pose the following questions on the info required page please?
      

          My records for week 8th July 84 to 14th July are partially complete. Can anyone fill in the gaps?

          47061 on a relief. I boarded Derby and bailed New Street. Date, train, headcode anyone?
          47064, 47074 on trains around Derby? Any idea what they worked, if anything, in the area that week?
          31401 on a train from Anglia. I boarded Leicester and bailed at New Street. Date,headcode,train?

            Gerard Fletcher (Webmaster of 'The charts On-line") says..."
The only train 31401 worked from Leicester to New Street that week was 1M81 18.03
                   Harwich - Wolverhampton on Tuesday 10th July."

          86315. Boarded New Street, bailed at Crewe"

  A.


Q.  Andrew Pullar asks...
           "
a} 19/08/1967 Plymouth to Cardiff Central charter train for the Cardiff City v. Mighty Greens match. I travelled on this aged 8 with my parents in order to
                    visit relatives (rather than watch the 1 all draw). I was informed decades later that the train was headed by D1057 and was routed by way of St. Philips
                    Marsh and Dr. Days curve to avoid running through Bristol Temple Meads. Can anyone confirm the loco and route? Did it also avoid running through
                    the station at Exeter Saint David's?
 
               b) The actual date in 1972 when D19 failed approaching Bristol temple Meads on 1E30 [0820 Plymouth-Leeds] and got rescued by D144.

                    A long shot perhaps but hope springs eternal."
  A.
Q.  "Captain Grey" asks...
                1) I vaguely remember going on a Mystex with my Grandmother around 1974 - 76. It started at Derby, went down through Burton and then I
                    think through Lichfield and we ended up with Llandudno as our final destination.   Anyone else recall this tour? I THINK it was a 47. Any numbers?

                 2) I travelled on a school charter from Radcliffe-on-Trent to Wembley Central to see a England schoolboys international match around
                     1977-79. We ran via Nottingham, Market Harborough and the closed freight only line to Northampton and down the WCML and back the same
                     way.  Anyone remember anything like this? Again, numbers, dates, anything appreciated.

A.

Q.   Alan Freer says...
             "I am after details of locos involved on one Merrymaker from 1980:
              Saturday 20 September 1980  Merrymaker ADEX  09.12 Slough - Blackpool via Oxford, and return 22.25 Blackpool - Didcot via Willesden. I believe it was
              47 to Coventry or New Street,AC electric to Preston,40 or 47  Preston - Blackpool and
             Blackpool -Manchester?-Crewe,AC electric  Crewe - Willesden, and 47? Willesden -Didcot.  Any info appreciated. "

A.

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