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Is the 1L68 0908 Liverpool LS - Yarmouth that appears on this site's diary pages running during the summer of 88
a hauled replacement for the 0950 ex Manchester P, shown in  the TT as Plastic?

Hi all
On Wednesday Feb 8th 1989 I travelled from the Midlands to the
South Coast for a mini bash in France and Belgium.

I caught 1O04 0654 Wolverhampton-Poole from New St to Oxford
with 47478 !!!!. Caught the 0925 Oxford-Pad forward with 50040.

Can anyone tell me what the WTT no was for my records please ?

Many thanks
Phil Bartlett

0925 Ox - Padd was 1F35 according to our records.

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Name your top 10 rare passenger workings of all time.

Mine include :
33046 1E22 12.46 FO Portsmouth - Leeds throughout - 1985
33045 1M10 sleepers Drag Preston - Crewe early one Sunday morning (1986 I think)
3 pairs ? of class 73s to Birmingham including 1996 on 14.20 Brighton - Manchester.
Virgin's use of 58017 Birmingham - Bournemouth and return
20011 York - Birmingham - 12.55 York - Cardiff relief
D1013 Gloucester - Leeds and return - 1976 ?
56001/56062 dragging EMUs in the snow in Kent 1987
45060 to Brighton
45143 05.50 Exeter - Waterloo and 13.10 Waterloo - Exeter after
a rededication service at Waterloo (1983?1984?)
Pair of 50s 12.37 Leeds - Cardiff in 1982 after outshopping from
Doncaster Works

Subject:
        re: Top 10 rare passenger workings
  From:   Phil
    Time: Wed, 26-Dec-2001 22:08:15 GMT

Whilst it was not a public passenger train The Royal Train to
Aberystwyth with a pair of DRS choppers must rate as rare ?

I once spent a Saturday afternoon (I think) on a pair of choppers
20092/20102,pushing and pulling a class 108 DMU on a Hednesford-
Walsall shuttle after a final drive packed up on the unit.

The most unusual passenger operations I were ever on though were
in Austria. The overheads were isolated at a mainline station so
through trains were coasting through with lowered pans. Stopping
trains had a diesel loco shove them out of the station "loose",
with the electric loco raising it's pan under live wires to
accelerate the train away.

Branch trains had a diesel pilot to the first reasonable station
to detach. Diesels used were 4 wheel, 0-6-0 and B-B hydraulics.

Cheers
Phil

Subject: : Top Ten - Some more contenders.
    From: UD
     Time: Wed, 02-Jan-2002 21:13:45 GMT

In the interest of adding to a debate, I put forward below, a
list of possible contenders.
I can't claim to have seen this lot personally, so if I've got
any details wrong, please feel free to say so here.

I've not included Railtour's aimed at the enthusiast, as exotic motive power was
Usually requested for these.

Any offers for a Top 10 Railtour's list?

Note that the list that follows in chronological order.
-----------------------------------------------------------------
20th January 1977

D1013 0730 Swansea - Leeds
D1013 1443 Leeds - Plymouth

Mentioned before, but really needs to be included in any
list of contenders.  Well off usual Western territory,
all the more remarkable when you consider that;
Only half a dozen class members still in service, and
only a few weeks later they would all be gone.
 

Bank holiday Monday 29th May 1978

20142+20159+20194+20077 (All working!) 1830 Skegness - Leicester,  to Nottingham.

20077+20194 had worked out from Leicester that morning but a fault developed on one of them.
So assistance was summoned for the return.  Control sent out the 2nd pair, but by the time they arrived, the fault was fixed, so all four locos worked the return.
 

Saturday 3rd June 1978

37033+37077 0730 Birmingham NS - Newcastle

Class 37's not unknown on this service, but how often a pair?  What would people pay for this today?
 

Saturday 3rd June 1978.

37283 0900 Llandudno - York

This type extremely rare along the North Wales coast, if not unknown at that time.
Could this be the 1st ever Class 37 on a timetabled north Wales passenger turn?
Interesting to hear just how this loco came to be at Llandudno in the first place!
 

Saturday 10th June 1978

24082 Llandudno Junction - Euston relief (to 0630 ex Holyhead) throughout!

Only a dozen of this, once 151 strong class left by then, all  based at Crewe, but they were enjoying quite a lot of passenger action along the North Wales coast that summer, especially on the
following diagram vice dmu:  0942 Ludo - Man V / 1330 Man V - Ludo / 1642 Ludo - Crewe / 2030 Crewe - Bangor.  Class 24's would have worked many passenger duties in and out of Euston during the  early 60's
but was this the last ever?
 

Saturday 14th July 1979

20077+20189 0832 Derby - Yarmouth, to Norwich
20077+20189 Walsall - Yarmouth, forward from Norwich

So far this is the only pair I'm aware of that made it to this popular East Coast resort.
Others known to have reached Norwich (and there must be others?) include;
27/6/81 20170+20192 0830 Stoke (via Derby or Castle Donnington?) - Yarmouth additional
28/8/82 20136+20160 0833 Derby - Yarmouth, but failed on arrival.
 

Saturday 21st August 1982

73108+73134 1105 Portsmouth - Manchester P, to New Street!
73108+73134 1423 Manchester P - Portsmouth, from New St

Again, another referred to before, but believed to be the 1st ever 73's to reach the West Midlands
on a scheduled passenger service!
Sometime during that summer, (a few weeks before?) a pair worked  the 1246 Portsmouth - Leeds.  One failed at Oxford while the other reached Banbury before it to, failed.  Anyone any ideas on a date?
 

Saturday 2nd October 1982

40009+40099 1410 Paignton - Manchester P, from Birmingham NS

Pairs of 40's seam to have been far more common that I remember, mostly these reported pairs were in North Wales, So I've gone for this pair, solely due to the fact it's a different route.  No doubt there are main more I could have chosen.
 

1st September 1984

58002+HST 1210 Liverpool LS - Penzance, between Birmingham NS - ?(nr Plymouth)

The 1st example to reach Plymouth.  Assisting a failed HST, but,  failed itself just a few miles short
Requiring the rear HST power cars to be re-started to assist.  Caped at Plymouth?
 

Friday 7th June 1985

33046 1246 Portsmouth - Leeds throughout.
33046 2100 Bradford - Weymouth

Almost certainly a unique working!  Surely the only time a Class 33 reached Leeds or worked out of
Bradford.  I'm not clear if the 33 worked through to Weymouth with this
service or if it followed the diagram and took the Leeds - Portsmouth forward from New Street.
It was, however in the West Midlands on Sunday the 9th to work the 0825 Manchester P -
Bristol, from Birmingham NS, replacing 40122.
 

Thursday 16th January 1986

33115 0625 Poole - Manchester P, from ?

During the early 80's, Class 33's were regular visitors to Manchester P, but always on services ex Cardiff, but never the 33/1's.  This sub-class was always rare in the Northwest.  This working was also quite remarkable, as
previously, when 33's worked through from the SR, they had usually been replaced in the West Midlands.
 

Monday 24th June 1987

33055+33062 0625 Poole - Manchester P, from Basingstoke(?)
33055+33062 1615 Liverpool LS - Poole

Only the 2nd time 33's had worked through on this service and a possible 1st working out of Lime St?
 

26th September 1989

20199+20202 1204 Llandudno - Blaenau Ffestiniog
20199+20202 1418 Blaenau Ffestiniog - Llandudno

Could this be the only time a scheduled passenger train was hauled on this branch by 20's?
The above diagram also included the 0815 Derby - Llandudno -&- 1727 rtn.
 

Saturday 22nd July 1995

31467+31450 0856 Birmingham NS - Ramsgate

Surely a rare turn at Ramsgate?  This turn was to become even more famous, later, due to the fact D9000 worked it almost solidly for an entire summer.
 

Tuesday 28th January 1997

73132+73139 1420 Brighton - Manchester P, between Redhill - Birmingham New St.

Only the 2nd time Class 73's made it to New Street?  Almost 15 years since the 1st pair!
 

22nd August 1998

58017 09.10 Edinburgh-Bournemouth, from New st
58017 18.14 Bournemouth-Birmingham New Street throughout.

Another shortage of 47/8's for Virgin trains forced a long distance run with a 58!

I can also remember a Class 56 (was it 065) was working light along the WCML, sometime late 70's,
When an electric failed on an Inverness(?) train and the 56 dragged it to somewhere like Mossend.
1st ever 56 on a Scottish passenger turn?  And then that Crompton worked the beds a couple of
years back, and no doubt loads more.

Subject:  re: Top Ten - Some more contenders.
   From: "B.T."
    Time: Thu, 03-Jan-2002 23:09:13 GMT

>Friday 7th June 1985
>
>33046 1246 Portsmouth - Leeds throughout.
>33046 2100 Bradford - Weymouth
>
>Almost certainly a unique working!
>Surely the only time a Class 33 reached Leeds or worked out of Bradford.
>I'm not clear if the 33 worked through to Weymouth with this service or if it followed the
>diagram and took the Leeds - Portsmouth forward from New Street.  It was, however in
>the West Midlands on Sunday the 9th to work the 0825 Manchester P - Bristol,
>from Birmingham NS, replacing 40122.
The 33 did work to at least Poole as a friend of mine took from it Chesterfield to there!!!
 

Subject:  re:33046
   From:  chris
Time:     Fri, 04-Jan-2002 12:44:19 GMT

On 7/6/85 33046 worked the 21.00 Bradford - Weymouth from LEEDS,
not from Bradford as stated earlier.  The engine from Bradford -
Leeds was 47522. I was on this train to New St.

Subject:  re:33046
   From: andy
  Time: Wed, 09-Jan-2002 20:33:01 GMT

Although not a shredder fan I had 33046 from Brum to Sheffield
that day for the sheer outrage value.  However, my hazy memory
suggests to me that the train actually arrived at Brum behind a
different shredder and that 33046 was attached there.  My memory
may be playing tricks though.....

For a rare working what about the two pairs of wheelchairs that
workd the Scarboro- Newcastle forwrd from York in 1985.  I had
20013/047 to Newcastle w

  Subject:  re:33046
   From: UD
Time: Sat, 12-Jan-2002 09:51:20 GMT
on the 7th Andy said...

>Although not a shredder fan I had 33046 from Brum to Sheffield
>that day for the sheer outrage value.  However, my hazy memory
>suggests to me that the train actually arrived at Brum behind a
>different shredder and that 33046 was attached there.  My memory
>may be playing tricks though.....

As yet I've received no eye witness reports of 1E22 South of New St
for that Friday so can't be sure, but the railway press reported at
the time (and since) that it was 33046 throughout.

On Saturday the 8th, I understand 33046 returned to the West
Midlands on the 1E28 1005 Weymouth - Bradford.

Subject:  1E22 Friaday 7th June 1985
  From:  Ian Mandley(BOOK)  via e-mail
  Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2002 19:58:03

33052 Worked 1E22 1246 Portsmouth Hbr-Leeds into Birmingham NS and
33046 took it out to LEEDS!  I was there! But I missed getting into Bham in
time to get down to Leamington spa for the inward bit! so was well withered
when I got into Bham to see 052 come in as it was required! but then 046
was sitting there in centre road running!?? and then it dropped onto E22
CLANG my jaw hitting the floor! Off to Derby we go!
What can you say?.......... except HELLFIRE!

Subject: re: Top 10 rare passenger workings
   From: Rugby Town
 Time: Sun, 06-Jan-2002 11:30:53 GMT

A MASSIVE CONTENDER must be this. There were about ten cranks on board but considering the train you would think there would have been more. As someone else has included stuff from the 90's and
we are talking about the biggest working of alltime, here we go!

We left New Street at 0013 on 1S25 for Inverness with 90029 on 30th June 1990. 47461 took over the train at Carstairs and nowt much happened until we got to Carrbridge. We overtook 20902+20905
in the Platform which were also heading to Inverness, one on each end of the weedkiller train. Soon after leaving Carrbridge 47461 slipped to a stand with its 17 coach train. It doesn't take a genius to guess was happened next. The twenties came up the rear and pushed us for about half a mile up the bank until the spa-
hoooon found its - erm - feet! Formation = 47461 = load 17 + 20/9 + load 4 + 3 tanks + 20/9.

If anyone knows of anyone else who was on the train, please get in touch with me as I remember someone who took fots from inside the train with the wardrobes on the back.

Cheers

Rugby Town

www.itsyourseminars.com

Subject: TOP 10 A CONTENDER FOR THE LIST
   From: "N.W"
Time: Sun, 06-Jan-2002 15:57:24 GMT

29.05.96
31512+31154 RESCUED FAILED 86247 ON 1S46 0655 BNS-GLASGOW FROM
MILNTHORPE SOUTH OF OXENHOLME THEN CARRIED ON TO WORK THE TRAIN
THROUGH TO GLASGOW.

Subject: 27032 working 1V62 Glasgow - Crewe
   From: CLINT
   Time: Thu, 07-Mar-2002 11:25:38 GMT

As a contender for top 10 rarest passenger workings of all time does anybody remember 27032 working the 1V62 23.50 Glasgow - Bristol sleepers from Glasgow - Crewe on the night of Friday 2nd February 1983
(the day before the great and infamous Boris the Basher railtour "The Cornish Crusader" from Sheffield to Newquay organised by the late Neil Webster and pals).

Subject:re: 27032 working 1V62 Glasgow - Crewe
   From: UD
   Time:Wed, 20-Mar-2002 21:54:31 GMT

>As a contender for top 10 rarest passenger workings of all time does anybody remember
>27032 working the 1V62 23.50 Glasgow - Bristol sleepers from Glasgow - Crewe on the
>night of Friday 2nd February 1983.

I have to confess to forgetting all about this one even though it appears
On the February 83 diary page!

Would be interesting to hear from anyone who was there that night!

Also would be interesting to know how this working came about.
Otherwise, a definite contended for a top ten I'd say.

On the evening of Wednesday 22nd September 1982, does anyone know which loco worked the Fort William Sleeper from
Fort William to Glasgow Q St. -&- the portion forward to Mossend Yard? Likewise, the next morning, Thursday 23rd Sept 1982 does anybody know which loco worked the Fort William Sleeper from Mossend Yard to Glasgow Q. St?

 How are you doing remember the good old days Glen Stafford

Subject: re: Steve h (hinkley)
   From: Steve H
   Time: Mon, 04-Mar-2002 10:44:28 GMT

> How are you doing remember the good old days
>
>Glen stafford

Hey Glen, how the devil are ya ! I was sifting through some old phots a couple of months ago and found a shot of 45112 with you lurking nearby ! Go look at www.45015.com for my latest project. Must catch up on the
old times, I'll email you properly soon !   Still got the hots for Annie Lennox ? ;-)

cheers

Steve Hill

Where were you...17th May 1986

I've received the following post from Chris Chadwick:

>My memory is a bit sketchy, but I remember doing the following move
>
>37426 New St - Sandwell -&- Dudley
>85??? Sandwell -&- Dudley - New st
>47346 0815 New St - Yarmouth , New St-Nuneaton
>45118 Notts - Paignton? Nuneaton - New St
>47085 1030 New St - Yarmouth , New St - Nuneaton
>Tram back to New St

>Sorry it's a bit vague but these are all definite as it was the 1st summer sat. and 47346 was very 'big' at the time.

PS   Also remember a day Aug/Sep 1985 when 47052 did a Man City - Oxford FOOTEX
-&- 47277 was on 1420 Newcastle - Liverpool, but sorry on the date ( maybe someone could help with that)

Noticing how little there is for this date in the diary pages, so thinking this
would be a good date to try for a new 'where were you?'.

Do you remember those excellent booklets 'To the last drop' and 'Loco-hauled travel'?

In addition to the details of locomotive diagrams and the likely motive power to be found working them, many
also featured itineraries for travel.

Did anyone reading this ever attempt to follow one of these itineraries, and if so, how did you fair?

 
Subject: Itineraries for travel
   From: Sudbury
   Time: Sat, 23-Mar-2002 03:20:33 GMT

I can remember looking at them and thinking 'this is all very well, but it would cost a fortune to buy
tickets for all these moves unless you were on a rover'!

I soon learned......!

Hi, I've already contacted Steve from Hinkley, is anyone else out there who remembers those days of peaks to
the BLOX, PAIGNTON, WESTON SUPER MARE SUNDAYS, SKEGGY AND OF COURSE OVER
THE PENNINES ????.....are you out there PIPER / GODDARD / SUE -&- FULCHER / STEVE from
Wolverhampton / DEL BOY from Wellingborough / PROF / STEVE from Long Eaton / EH AL from Huddersfield
ps.. what happened to BIG HAIRY JED from Birmingham ???  if any of you are out there, drop me a note,

IN MEMORY OF SOME GREAT TIMES, GLEN 45139

Subject: re: Peak Bashers (a.k.a. 1985 Peak Army
   From: Bad Trousers
   Time:Sat, 23-Mar-2002 13:26:18 GMT

Send me a mail.
I've got most the 'boys' phone numbers/e-mail addresses.

Bad Trousers

Subject: re: Peak Bashers (a.k.a. 1985 Peak Army
   From: beefy
   Time: Sat, 06-Apr-2002 13:09:35 GMT

>Hi, I've already contacted Steve from Hinkley, is anyone else
>out there who remembers those days of peaks to the BLOX,
>PAIGNTON, WESTON SUPERMARE SUNDAYS, SKEGGY AND OF COURSE OVER
>THE PENNINES ????.....are you out there
>PIPER / GODDARD / SUE --&-- FULCHER / STEVE from wolverhampton /
>DEL BOY from wellingborough / PROF / STEVE from Long Eaton /
>EH AL from Huddersfield / ps.. what happened to BIG HAIRY JED from Birmingham ???

i saw big hairy jed on the valley voyager to south wales. i think it was a bit much for him coz he
was asleep for most of the journey.

beefy

Subject: re: Peak Bashers (a.k.a. 1985 Peak Army
   From: lee
   Time: Sun, 07-Apr-2002 18:26:04 GMT

There is a picture in the back of traction magazine issue 53 jed is standing in a crowd of people at spondon station looking exactly the same as he did in 1984

Subject: Peak Bashers (a.k.a. 1985 Peak Army )
       From: Glen@looksmart.net ( from Stafford )
Reply-To: GLEN@sadie88.freeserve.co.uk
       Time: Tue, 09-Apr-2002 20:27:30 GMT

TOBLERONE FROM BURTON....ARE YOU OUT THERE??
I SAW YOU LAST AT STAFFORD STATION WHEN THE 37'S WORKED THEIR LAST TRAINS......
DROP ME A LINE FOR SOME REUNION BEERS!!!
                                        GLEN.
Subject: Peak Bashers (a.k.a. 1985 Peak Army )
       From: Glen@looksmart.net ( from Stafford )
Reply-To: GLEN@sadie88.freeserve.co.uk
       Time: Tue, 09-Apr-2002 20:35:22 GMT

TO LEE, HOW ABOUT THIS FOR A MOVE FROM JULY 1984

45142 SHEFFIELD - ST PANCRAS
45137 ST PANCRAS - LEICESTER
45145 LEICESTER - SHEFFIELD
45132 SHEFFIELD - CHELTENHAM
45052 CHELTENHAM - NEW STREET
45108 NEW ST - SHEFFIELD
45142 SHEFFIELD - LEICESTER
HST   LEICESTER - NOTTINGHAM
45145 NOTTINGHAM - SHEFFIELD
45145 SHEFFIELD - LEICESTER
45112 LEICESTER - DERBY

All in one day !!!

At last.....all the previous "Where were you?"'s have been finished off...so i'm now starting a new one....due to popular
request, a day in 84 has been chosen and i chose 1/9/84..my moves as follows..

47078 2F84 0713 Birmingham NS - Leicester    (Nuneaton - Leicester)
47088 1O13 0530 SO Bradford - Weymouth    (Loughborough - Leicester)
47378 1V80 0821 SO Bradford - Paignton    (Derby - Birmingham NS)
47375 ???? ???? ? - York relief    (Birmingham NS - Burton)
47254 1E39 0918 SO Tenby - York    (Burton - Derby)
45012 1E25 0910 SO Penzance - Leeds    (Birmingham NS - Derby)
45019 1E18 1220 SO Newquay - Leeds    (Birmingham NS - Derby)
47362 1E32 1645 SO Paignton - Leeds    (Birmingham NS - Derby

other stuff out that day includes..

  20054+20176 1E85 09.32 Derby - Skegness
  25178+25192 1J24 1010 Euston - Aberystwyth, between Wolverhampton - Forden, nr Welshpool, failed.
  25193+25282 2J61 0744 Shrewsbury - Aberystwyth
  25193+25282 1A46 1010 Aberystwyth - Euston, to Wolverhampton
  25254+25298 1J20 0735 Euston - Aberystwyth, from Wolverhampton
  25254+25298 2J84 1400 Aberystwyth - Shrewsbury
  25285+25286 1J24 1010 Euston - Aberystwyth, dragged back between Forden - Welshpool, 25178+25192 detached.
  25285+25286 1J24 1010 Euston - Aberystwyth, beyween Welshpool - Machynlleth, service terminated.
  25285+25286 2J87 1738 Machynlleth - Shrewsbury (1705 ex Aberystwyth starting short.)
  27066 1S06 2100(31/8) Euston - Stranraer , Ayr to Stranraer - pilot
  31240 1E83 07.23 Chesterfield - Yarmouth , to Norwich
  31242 1E06 1327 Yarmouth - Chesterfield , from Norwich
  37029 1N13 0910 Yarmouth - Newcastle, from Norwich
  37031 1M89 0749 Sheffield - Blackpool
  37031 1E45 1240 Blackpool - Sheffield
  37099 1H42 2035 Liverpool. St. - Cambridge
  37188 1B11 1220 Glasgow QS - Oban
  37194 1A18 0735 Stranraer - Glasgow C
  40152 1E23 1040 Carlisle - Leeds
  40152 1M26 1555 Leeds - Carlisle
  45002 1M22 1128 Paignton - Manchester P , to Birmingham NS
  45014 1E22 1004 Newquay - Newcastle, from Plymouth
  45015+47362 1V57 2235(31/8) Newcastle - Paignton , from Bristol TM
  45015 1E33 0910 Paignton - Newcastle , to Bristol TM
  45019 1E18 1220 Newquay - Leeds
  45029 1V71 0820 Liverpool LS - Paignton , from Birmingham NS
  45069 1V47 2330(31/8) Manchester P - Paignton , from Bristol TM
  45069 1M86 1000 Paignton - Liverpool LS, to Birmingham NS
  46035 1E79 1005 Liverpool LS - Scarborough
  46035 1M84 1410 Scarborough - Nottingham
  46045 1M51 0800 York - Blackpool
  46045 1E71 1215 Blackpool - Newcastle
  47061 1M28 15.04 Paignton - Nottingham
  47078 2F84 0713 Birmingham NS - Leicester
  47088 1013 0530 Bradford - Weymouth, to Birmingham NS
  47130 1E28 0855 Weymouth - Bradford, from Reading
  47197 1O11 0900 Bradford - Weymouth, to Birmingham NS
  47201 1E14 1025 Portsmouth - Leeds
  47231 1E67 0815 Manchester P - Skegness
  47231 1M54 1324 Skegness - Manchester P
  47232 1E82 18.15 Birmingham NS - Norwich
  47254 1E39 0918 Tenby - York
  47312 1M70 1009 Barrow - Nottingham
  47358 1013 0530 Bradford - Weymouth from Birmingham NS
  47362 1E32 1645 Paignton - Leeds
  47378 1V80 0821 Bradford - Paignton

    so if anyone is interested in posting their moves for that day onour site to see if we can discover any new workings, or
just compare how thing went for people on that day, please post in to the noticeboard or e-mail me directly at

            bontybermo@hugkiss.com

           Thanks for your time..
                Clayhead.

Subject: re: whre were you...1/9/84?
   From: 33106
   Time: Tue, 14-May-2002 18:34:50 GMT

All that NB out and I was doing the Exeter - Barny with 33033.
You should have been there!

My moves.
Friday 20th june 86216 1A85 2126 Wolves-Euston,LUL to Waterloo then,
Cab ride 33060 0230 Waterloo-Portsmouth(mail train)Waterloo to Woking!
33116 1B01 0245 Waterloo-Bournmouth Woking-Eastleigh,
33022 1T01 0428 Eastleigh-Portsmouth, A unit to Brighton for
33040+33201 1V10 0913 Brighton-Penzance Brighton-Southampton,
33065 1O36 1007 Bristol-Portsmouth Southampton-Southsea,
47633 1M07 1302 Portsmouth-Manchester Southsea-Guilford,
A unit to London Victoria,
LUL to Liverpool Street,
47096 1H22 1535 Liverpool Street-Cambridge + 1C87 1705 Cambridge-Liverpool Street,
LUL to Paddington,
47442 1M63 1927 Paddington-Manchester Paddington-Birmingham New Street.!!
All this for £1.00 My Lords!! Those were the days! Mispent Youth? TARDIS please!

Hello again!!
             Here is another date for the "where were you?" sub site of the 1980's timewarp basher's gen source.
The idea for those who are unfamiliar with this article is to collect together peoples "moves" for a given date in
order to piece together what loco's worked what services. I wasn't actually out myself on this date, but there
were a few strange loco changes that seemed to occur around the Sheffield area, aswell as a class 50 which
came in on the poole Sheffield via Leicester.

Here's what we know so far........

  20041+20213 ???? 08?? Kidsgrove - Skegness, to at least Derby
  20198+20199 1M35 1238 Skegness - Derby
  25173+25237 1J20 0735 Euston - Aberystwyth, from Wolves
  25173+25237 2J84 1400 Aberystwyth - Shrewsbury
  25249+25284 2J61 0744 Shrewsbury - Aberystwyth
  25249+25284 1A46 1010 Aberystwyth - Euston, to Wolves
  25058+25076 1J24 1010 Euston - Aberystwyth, from Birmingham
  25058+25076 2J87 1705 Aberystwyth - Shrewsbury
  31146 1M66 0725 Newcastle - Blackpool
  31146 1E34 1340 Blackpool - York
  31218 1E06 1327 Yarmouth - Chesterfield
  31242 1P98 0844 Newcastle - Yarmouth, to Norwich
  31248 1E83 0723 Chesterfeild - Yarmouth, to Norwich
  37008 1E71 0802 Manchester P - Yarmouth, to Norwich
  37008 1M74 1412 Yarmouth - Manchester P, from Norwich
  37011 1E28 0835 Glasgow QS - Scarborough, Edinburgh - York
  37147 1E28 0835 Glasgow QS - Scarborough, to Edinburgh
  37186 2H10 0805 Chesterfield - Scarborough
  37186 1J11 1140 Scarborough - Sheffield
  37186 1E39 0918 Tenby - Hull, from Sheffield?
  37187 1M89 0749 Sheffield - Blackpool
  37187 1E45 1240 Blackpool - Sheffield
  37263 1E17 0710 Sheffield - Skegness
  37263 1E02 1041 Skegness - Sheffield
  37275 1V71 0820 Liverpool - Paignton, from Birmingham NS
  37275 1M65 1608 Paignton - Liverpool, to Exeter
  40004 1E46 1541 Manchester P - Hull
  40060 1E67 0815 Manchester P - Skegness
  40060 1M54 1324 Skegness - Manchester P
  40104 1M03 0805 Portsmouth - Manchester P, from Stoke-on-Trent
  45017 1E33 0910 Paignton-Newcastle, from Bristol TM
  45023 1E22 1004 Newquay - Newcastle, from Plymouth
  45033 1E64 1035 Penzance - Leeds
  45069 1O13 0530 Bradford - Weymouth, to Birmingham NS
  46010 1V57 2235(22/6) Newcastle - Paignton, from Bristol TM
  46010 1E32 1645 Paignton - Leeds
  47014 1V31 1600 Weymouth - Cardiff, from Bristol TM
  45051 1E79 1005 Liverpool LS - Scarborough
  47064 1N13 0910 Yarmouth - Newcastle, from Norwich
  47100 1V03 0712 Manchester - Cardiff
  47101 1O11 0900 Bradford - Weymouth, from Birmingham
  47186 1O11 0900 Bradford - Weymouth, to Birmingham
  47191 1M76 1550 Yarmouth - Birmingham, from Norwich
  47194 1M03 0805 Portsmouth - Manchester P, to Stoke-on-Trent, failed, 40104 fwd
  47233 1M70 0745 Cardiff - Manchester
  47270 1M51 0800 York - Blackpool
  47270 1E71 1215 Blackpool - Newcastle
  47290 1E39 0918 Tenby - Hull, to Sheffield
  47290 1E28 0855 Weymouth - Bradford, from Sheffield
  47315 1O67 0805 Cardiff - Portsmouth, Severn Tunnel - Bristol
  47323 2V54 0611 Salisbury - Exeter SD
  47343 1B22 1007 Paddington - Pembroke dock
  47345 1O67 0805 Cardiff - Portsmouth, to Severn Tunnel junc
  47351 2F13 1548 Manchester V - Liverpool LS (failed DMU)
  47359 ???? 0734 Congleton - Paington, additional to at least Derby
  47362 1O13 0530 Bradford - Weymouth, from Birmingham
  47380 1V19 1902 Manchester P - London Paddington, from Birmingham NS
  47381 1E28 0855 Weymouth - Bradford, to Sheffield
  50017 1E60 1340 Poole - Sheffield, Between Birmingham NS - Sheffield, via Leicester

  please post your replies either into the newsgroup or to me direct at:-

    bontybermo@hugkiss.com

   Thanks for your time,
        Clayhead.

Is there anyone who can give me the haulage details of 1Z76 1820 Wolverhampton to Kyle of Lochalsh
"Mid-Kylesman" on 2 June 1979 . I know it is slightly earlier than the time warp period.
I can remember some of the details 40012 to Carlisle via Leeds and the 20s and 26s but the rest is a blur.
I also have a record of 40112 from Bristol Tm to Birmingham NS in Aug 1980 but find conflicting info in the
diary pages.15 Aug if I remember correctly.(Last move of a WR Rover)
Thanks for a great site

Hi readers,
                We've recieved a photo of 56066 at BNS with a failed x/c on 14/08/82, which it rescued from Leamington.Working unknown. Both locos came off at New St. Does any one know what it
worked?. Adjacent to the 56's in the photo is what looks like 31207 which we know to have worked:-

31207 1M67 1050 Yarmouth - Birmingham NS, from Norwich
perhaps this will help..

The photo should appear on our site next saturday when we next update.....

Thanks for your time.........

            Regards,
              Clayhead.

what ever bacame of him i was a preston basher.

on 11 MAY 1985 47 501 WORKED LAST EVER BARROW / NOTTINGHAM I
KNOW THIS FOR SURE AS ME AND ABOUT 10 OTHER 47 BASHERS FROM
SHEFFIELD TRAVELLED OVERNIGHT TO BARROW TO DO THIS TRAIN.47 501
ALSO WORKED UP FROM PRESTON INTHE MORNING WERE ONE OF OUR GROUP
BAILED AT GRANGE OVER SANDS , SO HE COULD SWIM IN THE OUTDOOR
SWIMMING POOLS. AS YOU MAY NOTICE LARGE AMOUNTS OF ALCOHOL WERE
CONSUMED.
   I FOUND YOUR WEBSITE AFEW WEEKS SINCE ,THIS COULD BE THE BEST
THING ON THE INTERNET.IAM GOING TO FIND OUT SOME MORE GEN IF
ICAN AND E MAIL IT TO YOU. THANKS FOR RE LIVING MY LATE
TWENTIES.KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK.

Loco    last train      notes

81001   1155 Euston-Stirling Motorail-26/8/83   caught fire Lamington
E3002
81002   0712 Man Vic-Glasgow-16/3/89    rlw-19/3/89
81003   1935 Euston-Northampton-7/10/86
81004   1200 Glasgow-Euston-17/2/89     rlw-19/3/89
81005   0712 Man Vic-Glasgow-18/2/89
81006   1620 Bir Intl-Euston Relief-12/8/88
81007   1525 Carlisle-Euston-14/11/89   (ex Crewe)
E3009   Hixon collision-6/1/68
81008   1011 Reading-Carlisle Relief-29/6/87
81009   1706 Birmingham-Glasgow -28/12/89       (ex Preston)rlw-20/1/90
81010   0720 Glasgow-Euston??-28/12/89
81011   1Z12 1820 12/2-F.William-Euston-13/2/89
81012   0847 Plymouth-Liverpool-6/4/90  rlw-7/4/90
81013   0757 Liverpool-Bir Int'l-21/8/89        caught fire at Int'l
81014   1720 Euston-Bletchley-4/6/87
81015   1745 Euston-Northampton-27/4/84
81016   2255 8/12 Euston-Glasgow-9/12/82        collision, Linslade
81017   1200 Plymouth-Manchester-2/12/89        rlw-22/2/90
81018   1100 Stranraer-Euston-3/9/85    (ex Rugby)
81019   0757 Plymouth-Liverpool-9/11/88 (ex Wolves)
81020   1714 Euston-Northampton-12/5/87
81021   1815 Euston-Northampton-10/2/87
81022   0745 Northampton-Euston-21/2/87

Non-Pass
81018   P'ton Quay-Glazebrook tanks-18/9/85     caught fire N of Rugby

Re Licky Banker
On 6.4.87 was line bashing in Birmingham area on unit 53121 59642 53050 between Worcester Shurb Hill - New St
service,with engine trouble, so banked up Licky by unidentified 37. Any one with any Gen.
Cheer Ian Bareham Ipswich
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